Talk:Frankfurt U-Bahn

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Is this system a "premetro"?

The premetro article contained a great deal of original research, and characterized a large number of light-rail or streetcar routes as "premetro" systems for questionable reasons -- like that the light-rail or streetcar system had a short tunneled section. More recently the premetro article has been scaled back, to only include systems that verifiable authoritative sources have called "premetro" systems.

Unfortunately dozens of questionable incoming links were made to the premetro article, from articles like this one, that didn't supply any references that verified systems like this one had ever been called premetro systems.

I am going to place a {{dubious}} tag next to all questionable claims that provide questionable incoming links to premetro.

If no authoritative references ever called this a "premetro" system that phrase should be removed from this article, link and all. Geo Swan (talk) 18:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the interesting one – the Frankfurt U-Bahn is probably the one system that can definitely be pointed to as a "premetro" system in the "textbook definition" of the term. IOW, Frankfurt's system really does seem to be a Stadtbahn system that has been rather systematically "up-converted" into more of a rapid transit "heavy rail" type of system. (Vienna might be another example of this...) Despite all that, I doubt there's a reference that explicitly refers to Frankfurt's system as a "premetro system". So I find this one to be a tough one, and I don't have any clear suggested course of action on the matter... [shrug] --IJBall (talk) 21:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Removed any reference to "premetro" from the article – upon further reflection, I agree that we would really need a reference characterizing Frankfurt's U-Bahn, specifically, as a "premetro" in order for that to stay in the article. --IJBall (talk) 02:43, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Poorly translated addition to the article from Oct. 2015

I have removed the following section from the article:

Soon after the opening, there was criticism of the design of gradual network expansion because the separated by fencing aboveground sections and the adjacent tunnel ramps cut the affected neighborhoods. Moreover, soon showed that the tunnel ramps planned in the Eschersheimer Landstraße and the Friedberger Anlage, unlike originally remained no temporaries, but had to be operated for decades. Therefore, they went in the 1970s through to build the tunnel equal with their final planned length. Where a further construction was not possible until the planned end state, ended rail lines temporarily underground stations. 1974 was the second underground route from Theaterplatz to Konstablerwache in operation, which was extended in 1978 and 1980, the main train station to Bornheim.
With the commissioning of the third main line of Bockenheim to the zoo in the autumn of 1986 the inner-city tunnel network was largely completed. The inauguration was accompanied by violent protests against the concept seemed free downtown. Unlike originally planned, the remaining tram lines were not shut down in the old town, but continue to operate and later even expanded. This was followed by many years, partly dogmatically guided local political disputes on the further expansion of the subway. After the local elections of 2005, the new black-green coalition in Romans stopped the construction-planning for the construction of the so-called DII-distance from Bockenheim to Ginnheim and told to build no further subway lines more.
Since summer 2008, the route network is also expanded again. Since this time, the previously pure tunnel U4 operates from its former end point at the Seckbacher Landstraße in Frankfurt-Bornheim further to Enkheim, which uses existing tracks over the operation depot East. As being last enlargement was followed in December 2010, the commissioning of the U8 and U9 for Riedberg. Construction of the extension in 2011 adopted the U5 from the main station in the European Quarter is scheduled to begin in 2015 and last at least until of 2019.

This section was obviously quick internet translation from the German article, but it is such a poor translation that it isn't ready for inclusion in the article. If someone wants to try to tackle a better translation here, in order to put this back into the article, feel free. (I may look into that on my end, but I'm in no hurry on it...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]