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A fact from Frank A. Kimball appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Frank A. Kimball brought a transcontinental rail terminus to National City, California, in exchange for thousands of acres of land?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frank A. Kimball.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 15:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Portrait of Frank Augustus Kimball.

... that in exchange for thousands of acres, Frank A. Kimball brought a transcontinental rail terminus to National City, California?

Source: "The Entrance of the Santa Fe Railroad into California"

ALT1: ... that in 1880, Frank A. Kimball helped organize the first San Diego County Fair? Source: "Remembering the history of San Diego's county fair"
ALT2: ... that Frank A. Kimball's efforts led to the construction of the Sweetwater Dam? Source: "Sweetwater Dam: Foresight of Frank Kimball prominent in centennial"
ALT3: ... that the olive oil mill constructed by Frank A. Kimball was the second one constructed in the United States? Source: Phillips, Irene (1960). Mission Olive Industry and other South Bay Stories. National City, California: South Bay Press.
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tea production in Indonesia
Comment: Article created through work in a draft space over multiple edit-a-thons organized by the San Diego Central Library in cooperation with San Diego Wikimedians User Group. Content was moved from user draftspace to mainspace on October 16, 2024; the article has 7228 characters, significant number of citations through out its prose, neutrally written, and is free of copyright violations. All hooks are under 200 characters. Image is in the public domain.

Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk), SDPLPauline (talk), Dasee8y (talk), and Thinkstationx220 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi @RightCowLeftCoast:! This article is new enough, long enough, no copyvio, certainly well-sourced. I think the first hook is the most interesting. QPQ done.

This is nice work, but I have some problems to address: I don't understand the phrase "build a transcontinental railroad Pacific terminus" on the page, could you clear it up? Do we know why Kimball wrote a family history of Estudillo? Was he a relation? Otherwise that sentence is a bit out of left field. The information in the lede about him donating land for cemeteries, schools, and churches is not in the body, could you incorporate it (and maybe elaborate on it)? The current DYK image is not sufficiently clear at this resolution (but this image, which is already used on the page, probably would be). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the first hook probably has the wrong citation. I can't see anything about thousands of acres. Maybe a citation to this would be more appropriate? Tenpop421 (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RightCowLeftCoast, SDPLPauline, Dasee8y, and Thinkstationx220: Responses needed to the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added clarification/a page number on the citation (page 191). I've clarified the terminus paragraph. It did sound odd. I'll see about getting the body to elaborate more on the cemetaries/schools/etc. Thank you. --SDPLPauline (talk) 22:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tenpop421: Is this nomination approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: Good to go. I had more queries but they're not at all urgent. First hook preferred. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 15:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]