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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk04:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Dainomite (talk). Self-nominated at 03:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Technical language

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: The article itself is off to a decent start. However, there are three issues with this nomination.

  • The hook is quite lengthy and sounds somewhat technical. I would recommend "...stipulating stating that in the event if either country is attacked by a third party, the other will come to their its defense?"
  • The article is only 1284 characters (of prose) long without the lengthy direct quotations of Article 2 and quotation of Turkey's announcement. It would be fine if the article reached 1500 with minor quotes (such as the Turkish announcement), but quoting the entirety of Article 2 is the only thing really bringing this article over 1500 at the moment.
  • Based on your history with other DYK submissions, you are required to do a quid pro quo review, and I did not see one in your recent edit history or otherwise linked in this template.
    Nmarshall25 (talk) 19:46, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review, I like your recommended changes with the hook. I will work tonight on expanding the article to fit the size requirements. I used the "page size" link to the left (under Tools) which must have included those 2 quotes in the size. Oh shoot, I thought it was my 5th DYK. I'll work on getting a QPQ done soon. —  dainomite   20:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nmarshall25: I believe size requirements should be satisfied now. Just have the QPQ left to tackle. —  dainomite   15:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alt Hook

  • ALT1: ... that in 2021 France and Greece signed a defence agreement, stating that if either country is attacked the other will come to its defense?

Review @Dainomite:

Both versions of this hook are dull. One would expect two countries reaching a defense agreement to agree to some sort of mutual defense provision like that. This is like saying that "... that water from the XXX River will wet your hands if you touch it?" Daniel Case (talk) 04:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: This is Dainomite's fourth nom (although they were previously credited with helping with other DYK noms, another editor nominated those.) ALT1 and 2 are approved. I slightly prefer ALT1 but not bothered. Z1720 (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding a second tick down here because sometime the DYK bot doesn't pick up the tick in the DYK checklist template. Z1720 (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm going to suggest some ALTs below, in order to get this nomination moving:
@Dainomite and Evrik: thoughts? Z1720 (talk) 00:48, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that either 3 or 3A are the best so far. ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evrik (talkcontribs) 02:02, August 5, 2022 (UTC)
Adding tick to let the preppers know that this is ready, per above. Z1720 (talk) 22:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thanks for the article!.

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 02:12, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]