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Contested deletion

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --99.30.230.18 (talk) 19:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because I came to Wikipedia for its content - she's regularly referenced in discussions about "Survivor" game play.

I struggle to understand why a person voted off first in both seasons and has zero impact on the game deserves an entry on wikipedia compared to players who have gone on to win! 62.60.118.38 (talk) 08:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I struggle to understand why you give a damn so much. Go put that anger towards something else. The few black, hell minority contestants on survivor hardly ever get recognition. Go suck a penis or something. MouthlessBobcat (talk) 08:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also struggle to understand why a person voted off first in both seasons and has zero impact on the game deserves an entry on wikipedia compared to players who have gone on to win. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.65.112 (talk) 00:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is Francesca Hogi. I don't have an opinion as to whether or not I warrant a Wikipedia page, but the fact that some complete strangers with no ties to my actual life have such strong opinions that it should be deleted serves as evidence to the contrary. Just saying. If you think others "deserve" one over me, go create it! And thanks to whoever created this one! Dearfranny (talk) 21:04, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to merge to List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) contestants

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Per a request at WP:AN/RFC, the result of this discussion is merge/redirect to Survivor: Caramoan. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 16:15, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I propose a merge to List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) contestants as per precedent set by this AfD for Russell Hantz. Hogi played twice and was an equal contributor in both, therefore she should be redirected to the contestant list over either of the two seasons she appeared in. Even though she appeared in two seasons, this still falls under WP:BLP1E, as she is not notable outside of the series, and is barely notable within the series itself. As I stated in this article's first AfD, "there is no information on her page right now that would not fit on the pages for both seasons. As other editors stated, her statistic is trivial and does not merit having her own page," and "the African-American reality stars list is not cited and, after a brief search as suggested by [ User:DrumstickJuggler ], I can't find it. Also, the Dalton Ross quote ("Nobody has given you as much praise as we have.") is not in the cited article and, as discovered after another quick search, is only found on the Wikipedia page in question and other pages that have been lifted directly from it. [...] All of the properly cited and notable information already exists in the Redemption Island and Caramoan pages, and the information in the "Reception" section is either trivial, uncited or cited from a non-reputable source. Using Survivor Sucks as evidence for someone's reception is not valid, as there are supportive and non-supportive threads for nearly every player that has played Survivor." - Katanin (talk) 19:37, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

sounds like you should open a new AfD. Frietjes (talk) 19:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just following Cavarrone's suggestion to start a discussion in the talk page considering both AfDs so far were plagued by ad hominems and purported sockpuppets. i guess if this leads nowhere I'll start one tomorrow. - Katanin (talk) 02:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
when you start one, see if you can coordinate it with an admin so it can be semi-protected. this should cut down a bit on the sock puppets. Frietjes (talk) 14:05, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

So you guys are just gonna redirect the article just like that? Not even giving at least a week to consider the article creator's consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MouthlessBobcat (talk • contribs) 04:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply - The abovce discussion has been open for a week. If you do not believe it represents consensus, them you should request an administrator to review the closure. I have done so just to move things along. -- Whpq (talk) 10:29, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that this should be contested given how recently the associated AfDs closed as keep, and the number of sock votes which have contaminated those discussions. Frietjes (talk) 16:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I read the two AfDs before closing this discussion. One was no consensus and the other was speedy kept because of socks, so neither one was really a keep. When closing this discussion, I took into account the previous socking, and still thought there was consensus for a merge. Cheers. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 16:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    and how many sock votes do you think we had here? Frietjes (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think any of the registered accounts were socking besides the blocked one. If you do, you should open an SPI. The IPs might have been the same person... or not. In my opinion, it did not matter whether the IPs were one person or three; there was still a consensus to merge/redirect this article. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • That doesn't mean to redirect the article. I'm not gonna let you guys get your way. Not this time. Especially the reverse racism that is around it. \ MouthlessBobcat (talk) 09:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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