Talk:Florynce Kennedy
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Columbia University graduation?
[edit]The above sentence can not be true. Margaret Spahr graduated from Columbia University Law School in 1929. Viola Beatice Kneeland received an LLM from Columbia University Law School in 1930. See [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prester John (talk • contribs) 19:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Rejected from Columbia on Racial Grounds?
[edit]"However, when she applied for law school in 1944, Columbia rejected her because of her race, so Flo threatened to sue the school. Finally, they admitted her.[citation needed]" I recognise there's already a citation needed sign, but I've not read a more citation-needy sentence on wikipedia yet. I know nothing about her past or racism at Columbia, but racism is not the kind of accusation one should make lightly.131.107.0.73 (talk) 05:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- I note that this article, as I found it, said 'she was rejected because of her race' but didn't say what that race actually was. I've added 'from an African American family' to the 'Early Life' section. Robofish (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Rejected from Columbia and other changes
[edit]I have changed the sentence about how she got admitted to law school to make it more accurate and added a citation from her autobiograpy. Based on her autobiography I have also changed some other parts eg I don't know what a 'seemingly casual childhood' is so I have changed it to 'happy childhood'. I am not sure if I am stepping on toes going in and making these changes - I have just started contributing to Wikipedia. I saw that the article is rated as a starter articles and is also a lot shorter and less informative than, say, the article on Dick Gregory, so I am just going ahead to make more.Lucy1958 (talk) 06:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Issue re The Landlord
[edit]A reader wrote in to Wikimedia with an observation about this article. I will copy their comment here, and invite them to join in the discussion.
The mistake in question is one that evidently appears in a number of other online sources. It is one of those cases of the same error having been repeated over and over again, while being no less incorrect for all of this repetition. It concerns Kennedy's appearance in the 1970 film 'The Landlord.'
Your article (together with these other online sources) says that, in the film, Kennedy portrays 'Enid the Maid.' While Kennedy's character in this film is indeed named 'Enid,' she is a real estate broker, not a maid. What seems to have happened is that the name of this character has incorrectly been confused with that of another, the similarly-named 'Edith'--who is a maid.
You can see the actual Enid character portrayed by Kennedy via the following link. She appears on-screen at 6:15, and is addressed as 'Enid' by another character at 6:23. Based on comparison with other images of her found online, this actress is identifiable as Florynce Kennedy. Whereas later, at 31:20, 31:59, 32:01 and 32:12, the character of the maid is clearly referred to as 'Edith,' not 'Enid.' The actress portraying her is not so visible (probably why I have not been able to find her credited in any cast list for this film), but from what glimpses of her are shown, it is apparent that she is not Florynce Kennedy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyLPjGz_T-Q&index=5&list=PLQosjCyEXnge1ijeolKzbaMZppmEyZKOE
--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Both the AFI and the TCM listings for the film do nor provide a character name or description for Kennedy. AMG and IMDB just give "Enid" without a description. The actress at 6:15 is indeed Kennedy, and she is called "Enid", but, although she very much seems to be a real estate agent, no one refers to her as that. In the absence of any concrete desciption of her character, and keeping in mind the AMG and IMDB listings a just "Enid", I think it would be best to adhere to that, to remove and description of her as a maid, but not replace it with a description as a real estate agent -- just "Enid". Thus: "In The Landlord (1970), she played "Enid"... (I note that for the other film listed in that sentence she also has only a character name, not a description.)
I'm going to be WP:BOLD and make that change - if anyone disagrees, feel free to revert and continue discussion. BMK (talk) 01:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Both the AFI and the TCM listings for the film do nor provide a character name or description for Kennedy. AMG and IMDB just give "Enid" without a description. The actress at 6:15 is indeed Kennedy, and she is called "Enid", but, although she very much seems to be a real estate agent, no one refers to her as that. In the absence of any concrete desciption of her character, and keeping in mind the AMG and IMDB listings a just "Enid", I think it would be best to adhere to that, to remove and description of her as a maid, but not replace it with a description as a real estate agent -- just "Enid". Thus: "In The Landlord (1970), she played "Enid"... (I note that for the other film listed in that sentence she also has only a character name, not a description.)
At WP:HD#https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Florynce_Kennedy there is an extensive comment by Fosters005 asking that the content from this edit be restored, and that soem additional information be added to the article. In response it was pointed out that the edit linked abovr was not cited to reliable sources -- as indeed it was not. But if some or all the informat canm be suppored by proper sources we should probably have it here. I hope that Fosters005 will post here with any useful sources that he knows of. Although it seems that he has a conflict of interest and so shoiuld be careful and conserevative in editin the article itself, his views and information are welcome on the talk page. DES (talk) 16:27, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
Potential sources
[edit]- Theoharis, Jeanne; Woodard, Komozi (2009-11-01). Want to Start a Revolution?: Radical Women in the Black Freedom Struggle. NYU Press. pp. 244–. ISBN 9780814732304. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Kuersten, Ashlyn K. (2003-01-01). Women and the Law: Leaders, Cases, and Documents. ABC-CLIO. pp. 50–. ISBN 9780874368789. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Schenken, Suzanne O'Dea; O'Dea, Suzanne (1999). From Suffrage to the Senate: An Encyclopedia of American Women in Politics. ABC-CLIO. pp. 375–. ISBN 9780874369601. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Proops, Greg (2015-05-05). The Smartest Book in the World: A Lexicon of Literacy, A Rancorous Reportage, A Concise Curriculum of Cool. Touchstone. pp. 145–. ISBN 9781476747064. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Fishel, Elizabeth (1979). Sisters: shared histories, lifelong ties. Conari Press. ISBN 9780943233703. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Watson, Steven (2003). Factory Made: Warhol and the Sixties. Pantheon Books. pp. 385–. ISBN 9780679423720. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
- Company, Johnson Publishing (2001-01-15). Jet. Johnson Publishing Company. pp. 18–. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
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has generic name (help) - Adams, Janus (2002-02-28). Sister Days: 365 Inspired Moments in African American Women's History. John Wiley & Sons. pp. 41–. ISBN 9780471437024. Retrieved 13 June 2015.
Given the plethora of easily accessible sources and her achievements, the sorry state of this article is a bit of an embarrassment.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm the last one alive. What would you have me do? Fosters005 (talk) 03:18, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Discussion of June 2015 changes
[edit]the removal of unsourced unattributed editorializing "proved to be disastrous" , the insertion of a sourced caption explaining the unusual cowboy outfit, and the removal of "linkfarm" from a section that has FIVE non-offical links are all clearly beneficial changes that need more rationale for reversion than unsupported claims that they are "bold" . -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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