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I Suggest that Fifth Harmony be Semi protected. The reson is because Fifth Harmony keeps being redirected to List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2), Fifth Harmony should have it's own page because it consists of a group on television and had music on ITunes. Fifth Harmony have appeaared on The X Factor US which is a show and that is work. I only suggest Move Protection and please put Proptection in action as soon as possible before List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2) moves it again.
- This page should stay as a redirect - as far as I am aware, none of the contestants are notable outside of The X Factor. Having music available on iTunes doesn't make them notable. –anemoneprojectors– 17:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Normani Hamilton (is not married) was in Book which is a short film. User:Sweden Rocks hard
- Does that make the entire band notable? No. It probably doesn't even make her notable. –anemoneprojectors– 18:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Normani Hamilton (is not married) was in Book which is a short film. User:Sweden Rocks hard
- The Cover they did of Impossible has more than 3 million views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweden Rocks hard (talk • contribs) 18:27, 10 November 2012 User:Sweden Rocks hard
- That doesn't make them notable either. –anemoneprojectors– 18:46, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
By the end of the show, half of the contestants will have there own page (like last season). The page has many references and may things to prove it's all true. They've made it to the Final 8 and have developed a small fan base. Normani competes in many pagents, I suggest the page stay how it is. --96.19.127.9 (talk) 00:51, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- "Half" of the contestants will only have their own page if they become notable outside of The X Factor. That usually means releasing an album or single that charts somewhere, but could be that they go on to do acting or presenting, or even more reality TV shows. Making it to the final 8 and having fans doesn't make them notable outside of The X Factor. 8 acts are in the final 8, and they all have fans. The whole point of the list of finalists is so that they are included on Wikipedia even if they are not notable outside of The X Factor - and in most cases, none of them are until long after the series ends. –anemoneprojectors– 15:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your concern however this article still needs to be intact we will keep this article about until many people prove me wrong by saying that the group Fifth Harmony should be a redirected article in addition to that going off on what AnemoneProjectors has to say about the article and what other auto-confirmed users have said I still find no reason why it should be deleted. User:2010srock
- Carly Rose Sonenclar is the only contestant in the List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2) that has a separate article to me that is unfair because what does she have to contribute in terms of notability that the other contestants such as Fifth Harmony have to offer? User:2010srock
- Carly Rose was on Broadway (and was featured prominently on the soundtrack for Wonderland), has had a role on a notable television show (which wasn't a guest spot, either), has been in films, and has been performing in large venues for years. She is not comparable to Fifth Harmony, and her page existed long before Fifth Harmony was formed. She has had success before the X-Factor. No matter what happens to the Fifth Harmony wiki page, it has nothing to do with Carly Rose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.161.227.119 (talk) 05:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
- Speaking of which yes there are some girls in the group that has been given notability and there are sources to prove that. Dinah-Jane Hansen and Normani Hamilton Have shown throughout the Web that they are proven to be notable. Hamilton has been competing in beauty patents and has won various competitions. Regardless of how you feel about this article she as of now is the most notable in the group and in the competition and needs to have an article regardless how famous the group is. Dinah-Jane Hansen has also receive some notability through singing at a young age. These girls are very talented, have a massive fan base, the second most popular viewed YouTube videos on the season behind Carly Rose Sonenclar and this article should stay alive. User:2010srock
- You say "this article will stay intact until many people prove me wrong". I disagree - you should prove they are notable, not the other way around. The group are not notable because they did not exist before The X Factor and have done nothing outside of it. As a group. They are notable for one event. In which case, they should be covered in an article about the event - which they are in the list of finalists. Wikipedia:Notability states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list." They probably have received significant coverage, so they can be included, and they are included in a stand-alone list. A list of finalists. You mention Carly Rose Sonenclar - she has been in films, so she probably is notable for that, which is outside of The X Factornice job, so she has a stand-alone article. This is clearly far more notable than then band Fifth Harmony, who have only appeared as a band in The X Factor. You say that Normani Hamilton is notable for being in beauty pageants. To be honest, I don't know if that is something that is notable, but if you think it is, then perhaps Normani Hamilton should have a stand-alone article, but that doesn't mean that Fifth Harmony should. I don't think the singing that Dinah-Jane Hansen has done makes her notable. Finally, being talented, having a fan base and popular YouTube videos do not make them notable outside of The X Factor. So in conclusion: they should remain on the list, but if you think Normani Hamilton is notable outside of The X Factor and Fifth Harmony, then go ahead and create a page for her. –anemoneprojectors– 20:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- If you want me to prove that they are notable then fine I will prove that they are notable but please just stop it. You on e other hand won't even give me a chance to prove that all you do is delete my article and think they are not worthy or notable which in fact they are I just need time to prove that ? Just give me a chance I'm just now starting to develope their article with the help of other people. Going back to Normani Hamilton I don't think it's the right thing to do to create an article about her when she is in fact put into a group. Somewhere I believe she originally did have an article but got delete prior to being put into a group and being on the show. If you want me to prove that they are notable then at least give me a chance to do that instead of going ahead and deleting e page yourself. User:2010srock
- Go ahead :-) –anemoneprojectors– 21:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- If you want me to prove that they are notable then fine I will prove that they are notable but please just stop it. You on e other hand won't even give me a chance to prove that all you do is delete my article and think they are not worthy or notable which in fact they are I just need time to prove that ? Just give me a chance I'm just now starting to develope their article with the help of other people. Going back to Normani Hamilton I don't think it's the right thing to do to create an article about her when she is in fact put into a group. Somewhere I believe she originally did have an article but got delete prior to being put into a group and being on the show. If you want me to prove that they are notable then at least give me a chance to do that instead of going ahead and deleting e page yourself. User:2010srock
- Thank you it just takes me time to find all that information but trust me I will just be patient with me! User:2010srock
- This article should be redirected as the group are only notable for being on The X Factor at the moment. Fifth Harmony didn't exist before the show. Are there any legitimate reasons for this article remaining, other then they have a lot of fans? - JuneGloom Talk 21:40, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- As a group they are only notable for being on the show but each member as their own notability and yes over time I will find sources why this group is notable and should have an article. As far as the redirected thing is concerned I don't really think it's necessary until things are truly proven. User:2010srock
- You can't find sources to prove they are notable outside of The X Factor when they're not. Why do you think they should have an article? This is not what happens. I've been editing X Factor articles for many years - the UK one is 9 years old, so we have plenty of precendent. You need to accept this. We have a list for the finalists, and that is all that is needed until someone goes on to become notable after the series. You admit that "As a group they are only notable for being on the show", so therefore they do not require a stand-alone article. –anemoneprojectors– 09:15, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- This article should be redirected. The group are definitely not notable and almost all the information in the article is about their x factor appearance, which is included in other articles. The information is too fansite'ish for wikipeida too, things like "Brooke is the oldest and shortest member of the group." are not important, and details like "Brooke has been compared to recording artist, Nicole Scherzinger." - by who? it could have been anyone from that statement, unless it is somebody noteworthy then it should not be mentioned in the article, it is too vague. There should not be a section about them post x factor when they are still in the competition. I don't see how the ammount of views on youtube is of any note either, unless it was substantial enough to be commented on by an actual source other than youtube itself then it should not be included. The sources need formatting too and the article could do with a copyedit if it stays, it is badly written in places. D4nnyw14 (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- You can't find sources to prove they are notable outside of The X Factor when they're not. Why do you think they should have an article? This is not what happens. I've been editing X Factor articles for many years - the UK one is 9 years old, so we have plenty of precendent. You need to accept this. We have a list for the finalists, and that is all that is needed until someone goes on to become notable after the series. You admit that "As a group they are only notable for being on the show", so therefore they do not require a stand-alone article. –anemoneprojectors– 09:15, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- I feel that this is a POV fork - WP:POVFORK or at least just a content fork - WP:CFORK. There are various issues with the article and fails notability outside the show.Maine12329 (talk) 06:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm starting to see a consensus for redirecting the article. 2010srock has even admitted that the group are only notable for being on the show. If you think one of the singers would pass WP:N and WP:1E, I would suggest working on a draft in your userspace and asking an experienced editor to check it over before moving it. - JuneGloom Talk 14:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you it just takes me time to find all that information but trust me I will just be patient with me! User:2010srock
- Keep. I think we have debated this issue enough and since they have now made it to the Top 6, I motion to retain this page as a separate page. Jaskemr (talk) 02:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- Making it to the top 6 still doesn't make them notable outside of The X Factor. One Direction, for example, are the biggest band on the planet right now. They came from The X Factor UK, and had a huge fanbase from that, and came third, but they didn't have a stand-alone article until long after their season ended and they released a single. –anemoneprojectors– 11:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Fifth Harmony has music published on iTunes.--Sweden Rocks hard (talk) 05:08, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep I've literally have been blocked from my IP address and wanted to let you know okay I give do whatever you want because I don't want to start a confrontation with you anemoneprojectors! I'm just really done with you so the battle is over cause I don't care like literally if I wasn't blocked I would have said that but since I was I'm saying that now. Happy? You want to delete it for whatever reason even though there are still people on here who opposite to it being redirected as well as people who agree with it. Another thing I noticed is that you feel as if you have more control over X Factor article's and that your opinion matters the most which in fact it doesn't? Your just a hater like all the others that oppose it and the only "real" reason why Carly Rose is the only contestant with an article is not because she's been in films and on broadway but because she is the most liked contestant on the X Factor. You might disagree with this but it's true! If that we're truly the case then we would also see Beatrice Miller and Diamond White with articles because clearly they have been in way more movies than she has. This is all not fair but its okay I'm allowing you to do what you want because like I said I'm done fighting a battle and just know that everyone does have input to say about X factor articles and their opinion's matter just as much as your does.
- Keep Ally Brooke lost her grandfather! This article should be in support of her!
- The fact that one member lost a family member is not even nearly a sufficient enough reason to have an article for the entire band. Unreal7 (talk) 14:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep okay what about the reasons that I stated above no one commented on that reasoning not even anemoneprojectors who appreantly stopped commented for some reason or just gave up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.220.230 (talk) 03:03, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- AP is currently taking a short wikibreak. I assume the music Fifth Harmony have on iTunes are their X Factor performances, which still doesn't make them notable. Also, why has this discussion seemingly turned into some sort of !vote? - JuneGloom Talk 15:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep There are plenty of resources and plenty of information for this to be a real article. Dinah and Camila have a huge fan base. Normani is known outside, and I'm positive they will get a record label after the show. --96.19.127.9 (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- This isn't a !vote, but a discussion. You might wanna head that way - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifth Harmony. Having a huge fanbase still doesn't make them notable outside of The X Factor. - JuneGloom Talk 17:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Just keep the thing up there the girls are getting a record deal by Simon Cowell not right now because they are currently competing on the show but when the show is over with and also the group is going to perform live on television in front of millions of people in NYC during New Year's Eve ball drop!!! Just face it they are really likable and have many fans that root and support them!
- Keep Are you serious and really kidding me Normani Hamilton had a previous article on here that got delete while she was a contestant on the show and now she's in a group so there's really no reason why she needs to have one now that she's in a group with an article. She is actually notable the others I'm not so sure about but she is and regardless they will be notable even without the article just simply because they are well liked and will be performing at various events after the shows over with! Why delete it now when not too long from now they will become famous? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.220.230 (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
As the article is currently at AFD, continuing this discussion is rather pointless. The AFD alone will decide the fate of this article. –anemoneprojectors– 13:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Request for redirect removal
These guys should have their own article at this point, so I'm wondering if it's possible to remove the redirect from it. Thanks HerroLink 05:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- They're not any more notable than they were a few weeks ago, so the AFD still stands. –anemoneprojectors– 11:02, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
- How so? A few weeks ago, yeah, they were just a group of singers on a show. Just yesterday though they won third place in said show, so that's pretty valid. And on top of that, Simon has more or less noted he's going to sign them. If none of that counts as "notable", then I don't know what does (especially since there are articles on here about less notable artists). HerroLink 01:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- They're notable, but still not notable outside of The X Factor. The fact they are notable means they are eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia - and they are, on List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2) along with the rest of the contestants they are just as notable as. When they're notable for something else, like having a charted single or album in a chart, then they can have an
albumarticle. The AFD still stands until then. –anemoneprojectors– 13:33, 22 December 2012 (UTC)- Think you meant article for that last part there... :P Granted, I doubt it'll be much time before that happens to begin with (a single or album release, namely one that charts), so ¯\(°_o)/¯ HerroLink 23:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- Haha I said album! Typing too quickly I think. Yes there might be articles about less notable artists but WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS/WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. –anemoneprojectors– 23:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- They do fulfill one of the criterion for Wikipedia:Notability (music):
- 9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.--Babar Suhail (talk) 23:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
- So has every other contestant on The X Factor in every country it's broadcast. That's why we have the lists. They satisfy this criterion. –anemoneprojectors– 16:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
- Cleaned up the article, they were signed to syko records which gives them notability.Kittycolada911 (talk) 11:43, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Last I heard was that Simon Cowell said he wanted to sign them to Syco Music but it hadn't been confirmed if they had been or not. Anyway, even if they have been, that doesn't gain them notability. –anemoneprojectors– 12:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
- Cleaned up the article, they were signed to syko records which gives them notability.Kittycolada911 (talk) 11:43, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- So has every other contestant on The X Factor in every country it's broadcast. That's why we have the lists. They satisfy this criterion. –anemoneprojectors– 16:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
- Haha I said album! Typing too quickly I think. Yes there might be articles about less notable artists but WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS/WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. –anemoneprojectors– 23:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- Think you meant article for that last part there... :P Granted, I doubt it'll be much time before that happens to begin with (a single or album release, namely one that charts), so ¯\(°_o)/¯ HerroLink 23:06, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- They're notable, but still not notable outside of The X Factor. The fact they are notable means they are eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia - and they are, on List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2) along with the rest of the contestants they are just as notable as. When they're notable for something else, like having a charted single or album in a chart, then they can have an
- How so? A few weeks ago, yeah, they were just a group of singers on a show. Just yesterday though they won third place in said show, so that's pretty valid. And on top of that, Simon has more or less noted he's going to sign them. If none of that counts as "notable", then I don't know what does (especially since there are articles on here about less notable artists). HerroLink 01:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Recreating article
Camila Cabello is going solo after there 7/11 tour finishes and Flop Harmony are breaking up. This is sad because they still haven't been able to beat the most talented, amazing, hot and biggest girl group out there Little Mix who are bigger then 5H, Spice girls, destiny child, K-pop and TLC. WOW let's talk about Little Mix who still hold the record for the first group in history to win the whole x-factor just sad how not even 1D OR FH could do this.
Article is notable based on previous references and additional references that have emerged since the last AfD discussion.
This article has been redirected numerous times. I have not seen the previous articles, but came here to create a new article and saw that it was previously redirected. Based on the last AFD discussion, it looks like those wanting to delete or redirect the article are waiting for them to have a single or release their album while those looking to keep the article look like the same person using multiple accounts.
While redirecting the article may have seen like the perfect thing to do in the past, waiting for them to release a song or an album makes no sense as they have released numerous covers and there are bands that are notable for their covers. What this comes down to is WP:GNG. Is there significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent from the subject? Absolutely. There are 12 of them that I have included in the article. Please note that this does NOT include a list duplicate articles as you can find the same article syndicated with numerous other sources and each article should only be considered one time for purposes of establishing notability. --DaisyKitteyMEO (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- The AFD result should still stand and your version of the page is barely any different to how it was before the last AFD ended (in fact it had more references before, and fewer "citation needed" tags), so I suggest you try deletion review if you disagree with the result. In the meantime, please update the list entry if there's anything missing - it's why it's there. –anemoneprojectors– 08:02, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Just Please no stop it Lauren Jauregui is bisexual and she's dating Camila Cabello it's true please stop changing it! She had an interview with Ellen Degeneres on her talk show.Welcometothenewmillennium 1:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Just because there's something intriguing about a member doesn't mean that the group she's in is notable itself. ZappaOMati 00:16, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't saying that the group is notable and that the article should remain I'm stating factual information Lauren Jauregui is bisexual she likes both men and women or guys/girls vise versa. She dated both Keaton Stromberg and Camila Cabello there are sources to prove that. Both of which were contestants on The X Factor so she was already out of the closet well before the group was even made! Hens why she is Bisexual and not straight! Welcometothenewmillennium 7:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
How about Fifth Harmony win a Popdust Next Pop Superstar of 2013? And when Fifth Harmony performed at Radio Disney Music Awards after party? And when Fifth Harmony become a presenter in Radio Disney Music Awards? And when Ed Sheeran tweeted to check out Fifth Harmony's video on youtube? Does it make them notable enough?Ggdlmnt (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced this Popdust thing is an actual award, it looks like a poll to me, and Popdust appears to be a blog. Someone tweeting most certainly does not make them notable (I've been tweeted by celebrities, does that make me notable?). Most X Factor contestants end up performing somewhere, so that doesn't really add to their notability. –anemoneprojectors– 09:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- And Fifth Harmony presenting an award at Radio Disney Music Awards. And performed at the after party. That's an actual award. Ggdlmnt (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Presenting an award isn't the same as receiving an award. –anemoneprojectors– 21:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- And Fifth Harmony presenting an award at Radio Disney Music Awards. And performed at the after party. That's an actual award. Ggdlmnt (talk) 17:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Are you kidding me people you can not just sit here and tell me that a member from the group (Lauren Jauregui) is not bisexual! I don't care if the article gets deleted or not I'm just telling you factual information that's true! She is attracted to both guys and girls and has been rumored to be dating two contestants from The X Factor Keaton Stromberg from Emblem3 and Camila Cabello from Fifth Harmony both are contestants from the show. So in that case she is in fact bisexual not straight but lesbian and transgender + BISEXUAL! Thank you! Welcometothenewmillennium 23:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- check here! Thank you! Ggdlmnt (talk) 03:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Welcometothenewmillenium, firstly 'rumours' - never can be used in a biography. Secondly, until Jauregui acknowledges and identifies herself as a bisexual - don't add it in the article. Just because she may be in a relationship with another woman, does not mean she identifies herself as bisexual. If you have a reliable source of her stating she is bisexual — that's a different story. Please, take a good read of this policy on biographies of living people, as it properly explains the do's and don't of biographies. Thank you, —MelbourneStar☆talk 09:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- There is zero evidence that Jauregui is bisexual or has been in any relationship with a female. She has stated many times that she is straight. Knock off the real life shipping. — Confession0791 talk 05:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Members
The section in question, Members, must have reliable sources cited to corroborate content - especially details such as age, ethnicity, birth place, sexuality etc. (newspaper articles, are a grand example). Despite the notion going around, this isn't a negotiation - this is actually policy. Sites that have been misused as references in this article, includ (but not limited to): Tumblr; Wikia; Wiki Answers etc. - all of which must never see daylight in this biography section, or any other biography section/article on the project.
Please do not cut corners in finding references; make sure that they are of high quality, and reliable. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆talk 08:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I understand your concerns and truly all I "reallly" want to do is help that's all not hurt! I will do my best to find high quality article instead of just posting fan bases or gossip on here! Welcometothenewmillennium 12:30 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- I concur completely with the editors above. And this isn't a matter of opinion: WP:VERIFY is core Wikipedia policy and with living people the standard is even higher. We cannot make claims about alleged birth places or birth dates, or parents' names, without verification from journalistic or other WP:RS sources. That means no fan pages, and no wikia, including IMDb. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Edit request on 8 July 2013
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Fifth Harmony has gained notability and have released music I think it's time that the AFD gets taken down!
Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 03:54, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Not done: Sorry, but individual admins answering edit requests cannot override the consensus reached at the latest deletion discussion. If you want to recreate it again, you need to ask User:Mkdw, the admin that closed the deletion discussion, and if that doesn't work you can open a deletion review discussion. However, my guess is that such a discussion won't result in the article being unprotected unless you can show that there have been new, good-quality, reliable sources written about the group, or that they somehow otherwise pass WP:BAND. Probably the best thing to do is to give it some time and see if the group get more press coverage outside of the context of the X Factor. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Just wanted to add that it looks like, from their list entry, that their single is available to download soon. Perhaps it'll chart. If it does then the group will probably pass WP:BAND, so we should at least wait that long. –anemoneprojectors– 11:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah but their single has charted they are now touring, released music, singles performed on live national television what more can you ask for? Welcometothenewmillennium 7:25 22 July 2013.
- What sort of chart has it charted in? –anemoneprojectors– 07:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
The group just released a single and it is charting now in different countries as we speak! Billboard Hot 100, iTunes, oh my god the freaking single it's charting in Canada, United States, North America and South America! Welcometothenewmillennium 19:47 22 July 2013.
To add on too of all that they are about to tour with Cher Lloyd? Can someone please tell me why the girls arnt notable enough to hold a stand alone article? There are articles about less notable than Fifth Harmony! If they can't not pass WP:BAND then what will make them pass it? Welcometothenewmillennium 20:12 23 July 2013.
- I checked the Billboard Hot 100 today and did not see them on it. Please provide a link that substantiates your claim. All the criteria is there for WP:BAND. I recommend you carefully read it again as iTunes and Mediabase are not national charts (they are third party commercial charts). Lastly, I recommend you read WP:INHERENT that talks about how notability is not inherent. They have plenty of coverage but only in relationship to the X Factor and not as a band alone. Almost every source cites them as contestants of the competition and that their single has not had significant success making them a band that generally would not meet the criteria. That said, it's clear that they will eventually meet the criteria, but it hasn't happened yet. Mkdwtalk 21:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
They have charted in New Zealand. [1] Miss Movin' On debuts at number 37 on the NZ Top 40 Singles Chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.62.101.246 (talk) 01:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
They're charted #85 on Billboard [2] The official list will be posted tomorrow. they pass WP:BAND now. What else do we need to do to get the page back up? Sogoodornogood (talk) 01:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Ok it's 100% official Fifth Harmony is the first act to chart on the Billboard Hot 100 from any series of the X Factor (US). They debut at number 85. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.62.123.81 (talk) 11:48, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
For reference, I've been looking for places where Fifth Harmony's debut single "Miss Movin' On" has charted in legit music charts (not iTunes sales charts). So far all I've found is the Billboard Hot 100 and the Official New Zealand Music Chart:
The song has so far charted in these two countries, which is one of the criteria in WP:BAND. They are reportedly going to release an album later this year.[6] Is that significant enough for Fifth Harmony to have its own page? I think they're getting very close. Robyn2000 (talk) 02:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
They have also charted on Billboard Heatseekers Songs at number 9. [7] I think that is enough to actually take down the AFD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.62.83.111 (talk) 03:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Ok so you're just gonna choose to ignore all of this? Do you have a problem against them having their own page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.62.94.45 (talk) 21:07, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Done The article has been unprotected. For the future, I would like to point out that this encyclopedia is built upon the time and energy of volunteers. Because we do not respond to your your beck and call does not mean we have some subversive and passive agenda. Mkdwtalk 01:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
new to this fifth harmony urgent suggestion
I'm new to this gig but my argument is that Fifth Harmony should not be protected if Jessica Sanchez, the runner up of American Idol which gets several times more viewership than where this girl band was from, isn't protected in her wiki page. Look up Jessica Sanchez and as an individual she has more over twice as many followers as the whole band of Fifth Harmony combined. In addition, Fifth Harmony isn't a group that has made it into the top mainstream groups and I would argue that the protective label does not do justice to all of those are more popular. Just because a few of their advocates/fans ask for a protected status does not mean that it actually constitutes one. I've done surveys where only s small percentage of teens have actually heard of Fifth Harmony and most are more familiar with Jessica Sanchez of American Idol. Personally, I mistook Fifth Harmony for the band that P Diddy made up with a few girls.
thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.227.207.201 (talk) 22:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- The page isn't protected. Reasons for page protection are not related to popularity, but to types of edits made to an article, such as vandalism, content disputes or addition of unsourced material. –anemoneprojectors– 08:06, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 16 October 2013
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- This was clearly a joke - it is a screenshot of a vandalised Wikipedia article. Styles is in One Direction and has not joined Fifth Harmony. –anemoneprojectors– 17:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 30 October 2013
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In the description there is one name that does not belong to the group members. "Jai Brooks", does not belong there. Also in the right side of the page there's a twitter username that does not belong to the page, nor has a relation with the band or it's members
MariaLauraArias (talk) 00:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2013
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Unexplained removal of awards
I would like to know why the awards section is continuously being blanked. No reason has been provided in the edit summary. Sources are provided, and I can gather better (or more) sources if that is the problem. Thank you. – TCMemoire 20:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- Disregard; dispute has been resolved. See my talk page here for further information. The sources provided for the information given in the "Awards and nominations" section were not reliable enough and a few of them did not work; the awards themselves did not seem to meet notability guidelines. Perhaps other official awards should be added if they can be found and properly referenced. – TCMemoire 06:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2014
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hi i would like to change the group picture to a picture i took :)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Fifth_Harmony.jpg/220px-Fifth_Harmony.jpg)
Fandommaster (talk) 09:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Spain image doesn't seem to exist. I suggest making sure the image is available on commons: under a free license before reacitavting this request. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2014
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oh and btw can we add their that "In December 2013, Fifth harmony performed at all of iHeartRadio's Jingle Balls" and this picture that i toook of them at the miami jingle ball
oh and we need to include somewhere in their that fifth harmony is the new face of jovani fashions and that they have joined the 7th Annual "Teens For Jeans" event by being the face of areopostale. sources are http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/01/prweb11454140.htm and http://www.marketwatch.com/story/aeropostale-and-dosomethingorg-join-to-collect-jeans-for-7th-annual-teens-for-jeans-campaign-2014-01-13?reflink=MW_news_stmp please let me know what you think
Fandommaster (talk) 09:30, 14 January 2014 (UTC)der a free license before reacitavting this request. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2014
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Fandommaster (talk) 05:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Empty redundant tags don't make anyone go any faster... We are volunteers. :) Technical 13 (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2014
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5th Times a Charm (Tour)
Tour by Fifth Harmony Basic Info Start Date May 3, 2014 End Date TBA Associated Album TBA Songs Chronology Previous The Worst Kept Secret Tour Next Live on Tour Gallery (images · videos) 5th Times a Charm is the name of Fifth Harmony's Fourth Headlining Tour and Summer Tour. It was announced March 31st. It will begin May 3, 2014.
Tour Dates Date City Country Venue May 3 Valdosta, GA United States Wild Adventures May 18 San Juan Puerto Rico Luis A. Ferré Performing Arts Center May 31 Mansfield, MA United States Xfinity Center June 1 Wantagh, NY Jones Beach June 4 Silver Spring, MD The Fillmore Silver Spring June 5 Baltimore, MD Baltimore Soundstage June 7 Corona, NY Citi Field June 8 Freehold, NJ iPlay America June 9 Englewood, NJ Bergen Performing Arts Center June 12 Chicago, IL House of Blues Chicago June 14 Toronto Canada Digifest Tour June 21 Deerpark, NY United States Tanger Outlet June 25 Cleveland, OH Jacobs Pavillion June 26 Toledo, OH Stranahan Theatre June 27 Cincinnati, OH PNC Pavilion at Riverbend June 28 Indianapolis, IN Farm Bureau Lawn at White River State Park June 29 Columbus, OH Promo West Pavillion July 18 Santa Ana, CA Orange County Fairgrounds August 28 Minneapolis, MN MN State Fair
Justinnn lawrence (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Not done Wikipedia is not a directory nor an advertising site - and you have not cited a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 18:37, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2014
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The band was not created in Miami. Two girls live there, but it was not created there. 99.18.195.113 (talk) 02:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 04:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2014
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I would like to change "The X Factor" from the beginning of the article to "The X Factor USA" since there is X Factor UK, and others and it is leaving out information when not mentioning which it is. Isaac2097 (talk) 10:08, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
{{edit semi-protected}}
template. Since the U.S. version is the primary topic, and was the original for this show, I'm disinclined to change the visual wording. I have however fixed the link to go directly to that article instead of the redirect. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 15:11, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Suggestion For Additional Information
It has come to my attention that there has not been mention of Fifth Harmony's performance on The Today Show, in 2014. They preformed with the same song[9] (and several others) that they first sang in 2013, as mentioned in "2013: Better Together, concerts and covers". This should be mentioned either in their 2013 synopsis, in the second paragraph after the following statement; "The group performed the single for the first time on television on July 18, 2013, on the Today Show in New York City.", or it should be mentioned in their 2014 synopsis, along with further information on the groups' recent activities. Among recent activities, or perhaps additional information, it should be noted that the girl group has recently launched an official fan club, which was announced on their youtube channel[10] and can be accessed via their site, which is not mentioned in the page. I think it is reasonable to mention their website[11] as it hosts a great deal of their information, and serves as a interesting point. Please consider this when updating the page Magicaldaze (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- ^ http://nztop40.co.nz/
- ^ https://twitter.com/chartnews/status/360186625231302657
- ^ http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100?page=8
- ^ "The Hot 100 81-90". Billboard. Retrieved 26 July 2013.
- ^ "The Official NZ Music Chats - 22 July 2013". Recorded Music New Zealand. Retrieved 26 July 2013.
- ^ "Fifth Harmony Have 'Crazy Cosmic Energy' In the Studio". MTV. Retrieved 26 July 2013.
- ^ http://www.billboard.com/charts/heatseekers-songs
- ^ https://twitter.com/camilacabello97/status/390292799318274048
- ^ "Fifth Harmony on the Today Show, 2014". The Today Show. NBCnews.com. Retrieved 11 July 2014.
- ^ "Fifth Harmony Fan Club". youtube.com. youtube. Retrieved 11 July 2014.
- ^ "Fifth Harmony Official". GROUND(ctrl).
Cuban-American?
Is this an American girl group, or a Cuban-American girl group? Jsharpminor (talk) 05:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- One member is Cuban-American. Does not make the entire group such. — Confession0791 talk 06:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
The correct writers and producers of this song!
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Written by Eric Frederic, Joe Spargur, Daniel Kyriakides, Gamal "Lunchmoney" Lewis, Jacob Kasher Hindlin, and Taylor Parks
Produced by Ricky Reed, Joe London, and Daylight
Theboardwalkeg (talk) 18:30, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
"Artistry" section seriously lacking in non-biased content
I was going to label the Artistry section with a Peacock message before I realized the article was semi-protected. The second paragraph, specifically, within the section is not at all objective, providing quotations directly from the artists' bios on their website ("an mature smoky voice"? "bluesy vocal style"? Really?). I just think this section needs attention, if it needs to exist as its own section at all. Objective, relevant information would perhaps be suitable within each artist's specific section beneath "Members". Ashleyscript (talk) 18:59, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with you that the latter part of the section is pretty much just fluff for the reasons given. Personally, I think the information about the voices should be removed removed per WP:BLPPRIMARY unless indpendent reliable sources can be found to support these interpretations, but for now I have added a {{BLP primary sources}} template to the section. Perhaps it will draw the attention of other edits who can furhter assess and rewrite as needed. - Marchjuly (talk) 03:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2014
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Please put an certification section on this page because "BO$$" is now RIAA Gold Certified,thanks. 201.68.200.85 (talk) 18:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 18:52, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Each member having their own page
In my opinion each member should now have their own page because ethey should be known as individuals too... Sammyjklmnop (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- If you can find reliable sources verifying the notability of each member, go for it. — Confession0791 talk 20:45, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2015
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2602:306:8B3B:57C0:14A8:D3D7:EF7F:9F61 (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2015 (UTC) The main picture is horrible. You can't even see who is who. Please change it.
Not done: Are any of the other images on Commons any better? -- Sam Sing! 23:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2015
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change the picture to this one: Fifth Harmony Billboard Photoshoot Crazykordei (talk) 20:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Not done - It's unclear of what changes you want to be made. Please make your request in a "X to Y" format. IPadPerson (talk) 20:52, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Not done Due to copyright issues, we cannot just add any picture from the Internet. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request
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I would like to gain permission to edit the member's biographies based on the interviews online. I will provide proper and reliable reference for any changes I make. I also have a picture I personally took that i would like to use to replace that very old picture
Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request and please note not all online interviews are reliable - many are promotional and/or unchecked. - Arjayay (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Citation to be added
Hi,
At the end of endorsements and sponsorships it says that the girls have become Ambassadors for The Cybersmile Foundation. Here are some sources to verify this!
https://www.cybersmile.org/news/cybersmile-announce-fifth-harmony-as-official-ambassadors http://www.sugarscape.com/celebs/news/a1078381/fifth-harmony-official-ambassadors-cyberbullying-charity-cybersmile/ https://twitter.com/FifthHarmony/status/604302461373833216
Thanks! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenchtoast312 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2015
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Some biographical information has been left out. 2.31.160.142 (talk) 23:06, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Stickee (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Ally Brooke Hernandez
Can someone please add more to her section? The other girls have two paragraphs and she only has one paragraph. Sophiathesinger (talk) 15:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2015
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There is some information in this article that is incredibly false and I would like to fix it. Harrystyleslover0201 (talk) 17:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Not done — Please state specifically what info needs to be corrected.
— Confession0791 talk 19:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)