Talk:Fate/stay night

Creating a Fate (franchise) page

About two years ago, DJK brought up this point, which seems to have gone ignored: "Does anyone else think that the name of this article should simply be changed to something along the lines of "Fate (franchise), since it includes not only Fate/Stay Night, but Fate/Zero, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya, Fate/Prototype, Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC, Fate/Extella, Fate/Grand Order - First Order, Fate/Extra: Last Encore, as well as probably several others."

Seeing how the original Fate/stay night page is attempting to list everything, despite how massive & mainstream the franchise has become now - not just in Japan, but globally - this is starting to get a bit ridiculous. Even the ones with only the loosest connection to this game, like Fate/Apocrypha & Fate/Grand Order, are being listed here. We now have audiences understanding "Fate/" as its own franchise without ever having heard of F/SN. The more those get expanded on, adapted into anime, and picked up by mainstream media like Netflix, and treated as their own entities, the more bizarre it'll get to keep track of it all here.

By now, can we all agree that creating a Fate (franchise) page to contain the list is a must? In my opinion, it would simplify things both for readers and editors. Knowing how often the Marvel and Fate franchises get compared, the fact that the MCU has its own page just shows we could make this a lot more accessible to readers.

I believe we've reached the point where this is justified. Of course, I am a new Wikipedian, so do let me know if there's a procedure I'm missing here! :) --ManaDragon (talk) 04:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@ManaDragon: Yes, I am all for it. Especially, as was brought out on it's page, for adaptaitions of FGO.Smeagol 17 (talk) 14:17, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

If there is enough content, I don't see why not. However, I would recommend using materials from the Russian wikipedia. I mean, I this visual novel seems to be lacking sources when compared to the Russian wikipedia.Tintor2 (talk) 20:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Fate (series) would be the title, surely. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

I was also going to suggest when the franchise article is made to have a List of Fate media.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 23:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Fate (franchise) seems entirely reasonable. --Izno (talk) 00:23, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

I personally prefer (series) just because its easier to type. and i think people mostly callit a series.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 04:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

It is by definition a franchise at this point. It is not just the visual novels, it is also the adaptations, original works/spinoffs, as well as the merchandising. --Izno (talk) 15:45, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Whatever everyone thinks is best. Its both a franchise and a series. I just think one is easier to type. that's all I wanted to add.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 15:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

This might count as "other stuff" but the Persona FA article is titled Persona (series).Tintor2 (talk) 19:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Oh guys... Yup, Fate/ is series or franchise — both terms are correct. Sadly but I've never ever seen in appropriative reliable sourses the significant coverage of ″Fate/ franchise″ term (WP:GNG). In Russian Wikipedia if created article with such topic would be deleted as an original research with not shown notability. To create Fate (franchise) article first of all we need to find survey sources from WP:A&M/I list. Of course fan-made survey articles do exist, but it's bad for Wikipedia to rely on such sources. Dantiras (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

This is true, but you can say the same about F/SN novel itself. Smeagol 17 (talk) 17:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

This novel is top raited in all japanese VN raitings and is mentioned in some anime/other game reviews and even scientific works. More correct to say this about Kagetsu Tohya. Dantiras (talk) 19:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Those novel ratings mostly have the same notability as those fan sites. As an alternative, we could restructure Type-moon article, if you think notability will be a problem for Fate/. Smeagol 17 (talk) 06:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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Fate/stay night redirect template

Here's this update:

"Unlimited Blade Works" redirects here. For 2014 anime series, see Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV series).

For the 2014 anime's episode list, see List of Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works episodes.

_{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 14:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC) (modified by me on 14:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)) (copied from Talk:List of Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works episodes on 15:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)) (copied from Talk:Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV series) on 15:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC))

@I'm Aya Syameimaru!: I see. Shouldn't we do the same with Heaven's Feel films?Tintor2 (talk) 16:18, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Tintor2: Well, that's a decent recommendation. I agree. _{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 16:19, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Surprise, I did this as well:

"Heaven's Feel" redirects here. For 2017 anime film, see Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel I. presage flower.

For the 2019 sequel, see Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel II. lost butterfly.

_{Aya Syameimaru 文々。新聞} 16:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Nice.Tintor2 (talk) 16:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Series overview table?

I propose a series overview table for the various TV anime adaptations of Fate franchise works. I've already added one for the anime based on the main "stay night" visual novel. I'll also be adding one for klPI on the List of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya episodes page. MarcoPolo250 (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't that imply that we have to create a main Fate article to focus on the franchise and leave this to focus on the visual novel? Also, a bit off topic, but we have tables for the songs but I don't think are sourced.Tintor2 (talk) 17:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Fate (franchise) article needed

Some content from here should be split into an article about the franchise, with this trimmed back to an article about the original game. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

PS. I note this has been suggested before, several times. Here's hoping someeone will actually do it :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:01, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

About the unreliable sources tag

Dani Cavallaro's publications have been designated as generally unreliable sources in this discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard. Citations to her work can be replaced with more high-quality ones or removed, and the tag can be taken off once complete. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)