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Investigators see ego, not money, as Trump's motive on classified papers - The Washington Post, November 14, 2022

On 23 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Plasmic Echo. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Declassified/Classified docs are NOT "presidential documents"

Classified and declassified documents (usually) belong to an agency. They are (usually) NOT presidential records. That's a point made by DOJ in it's reply to Trump's response to DOJ motion for partial stay as to docs w classification markings. MBUSHIstory (talk) 13:19, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

what specifically are you suggesting be changed and what Reliable Sources are you providing to support your view? 50.111.31.194 (talk) 16:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DOJ investigation of Trump docs?

Is this article and FBI search of Mar-a-Lago the full extent of the docs investigation? I don't see a DOJ investigation article and that's where the bulk of recent developments would be now. Since FBI is part of DOJ, should this article be moved to Justice Department investigation into Donald Trump's handling of government documents and include the full scope, first FBI then DOJ? There's lots of content in Aileen Cannon we could use for starters. Or should we keep FBI and DOJ separate for size/navigation reasons? cc: Tuckerlieberman 98.155.8.5 soibangla (talk) 01:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may be looking for one of these articles:

FBI investigation into Donald Trump's handling of government documents

United States Justice Department investigation into attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election Tuckerlieberman (talk) 04:32, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry, this is the Talk page for FBI investigation into Donald Trump's handling of government documents! I was a little tired when I replied. :) Thank you for your patience, @Soibangla

I believe you're correct that this article and FBI search of Mar-a-Lago are the only ones directly addressing the topic so far. The Talk page for "FBI search of Mar-a-Lago" had a big discussion about whether to rename/move the article, since it's well known that the August 2022 search wasn't a standalone event that came out of nowhere, but rather is the manifestation of a larger issue. However, it was decided to leave that article as-is for now.

Also, indirectly addressing the topic: Donald Trump's disclosures of classified information

I personally don't have an opinion on whether this article — "FBI investigation into Donald Trump's handling of government documents" — should rename "FBI" to "United States Justice Department". We should include the broader DOJ history in the article regardless of how the article is titled.

I have absolutely no idea how to keep these articles to a manageable size! Tuckerlieberman (talk) 14:26, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Soibangla: A related conversation is also happening here: Talk:FBI search of Mar-a-Lago#New section to discuss the court case more generally? It's definitely getting confusing, all this overlapping content, and lack of clarity about how to best organize it across articles. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 07:02, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photo graph of at least 2 moving trucks citation

I didnt want to barge in if it was contentious, but this links to an article with that similar title, with photos of moving truck.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/moving-trucks-spotted-at-mar-a-lago/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/18/moving-vans-arrive-at-mar-a-lago-as-trump-preps-post-presidency-florida-move/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/moving-trucks-trump-mar-a-lago-resort-biden-inauguration "At least 2 moving trucks"

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/politics/trump-documents-search-timeline.html Jaybest (talk) 04:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common name?

Plasmic Echo is hardly informative or the most common name. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I was just about to revert the undiscussed move. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term is too new to be anywhere close to a "common name" recognized by most people. We are not even required to use exact terms, sometimes choosing descriptive titles, and the longer title is such a title. We definitely need a discussion before making this move. Thanks for reverting back. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 April 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) NasssaNser 07:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FBI investigation into Donald Trump's handling of government documents → Plasmic Echo – Official name. See Crossfire Hurricane (FBI investigation). elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The term is too new to be anywhere close to a "common name" recognized by most people. We are not even required to use exact terms, sometimes choosing descriptive titles, and the longer title is such a title. We need a discussion and consensus before making this move. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the codename was just revealed a day ago in legal filings and isn't in common usage; it is too soon for such a move. LizardJr8 (talk) 17:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Don't see this catching on. Hyperbolick (talk) 04:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: per WP:COMMONNAME

The void century 00:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.