Talk:Edward Stopford (British Army officer)

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:49, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Stopford (British Army officer) → Edward Stopford (soldier) – Per WP:NCPDAB (The disambiguator is usually a noun indicating what the person is noted for being in his or her own right. In most cases these nouns are standard, commonly used tags such as "(musician)" and "(politician)". Try to avoid using abbreviations or anything capitalized or containing hyphens, dashes or numbers (apart from instances where more specific guidelines specify particular exceptions). Try also to limit the tag to a single, recognizable and highly applicable term.) and WP:CONCISE. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 07:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Hhkohh (talk) 13:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Soldier does not seem as recognisable as British Army officer considering his career was as a high ranking officer and then a politician and knight. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 10:06, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Officer" similarly gives no indication that he was a politician or knight. And how do you reconcile your position with WP:NCPDAB? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 21:16, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He was a Member of Parliament, which I think is more notable than being a soldier. Is he more notable for what he did in the Army than as an MP? If not, it should be "(politician)". jamacfarlane (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- He was a lieutenant-general and was knighted for being a general! Of course he's more notable for his main career, which he did for decades, than for being a fairly forgettable MP for eight years. Either would be sufficient to give him an article, but except in very unusual circumstances reaching high military rank is far more notable. Even Eisenhower and Wellington are really more notable in history for being generals than for reaching the highest elected office in the land. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - If that's what he was notable for, then it should be "British Army officer", not "soldier". jamacfarlane (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. "British Army officer" is used as a disambiguator for all British Army officers. It is used in hundreds of article titles. How is changing a single one in any way helpful to Wikipedia? -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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