Talk:Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé

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It's misleading to say that the unrest is caused by nationalization of the country's oil and gas. Quite the opposite, it was privatized, state revenue from it dropped to a seventh of previous levels, and the unrest is caused by those who demand it's re-nationalization. I'm editing to reflect this. Delief 13:51, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

You added: "A political crisis caused by popular unrest over the privatization of the natural gas industry led former president Carlos Mesa to offer his resignation to Congress." This implies that Mesa was responsible for the privatizations of the natural gas industry and other public utilities. Mesa was only an interm president and was not responsible for the privatization schemes. Sanchez de Lozada was mostly responsible for the privatization of formerly public industries (including the infamous Cochabamba protests regarding the privatization of water utilities). Please get the facts strait if you are going to edit an article. I have already seen so many mistakes made with regard to issues involving Latin America.-Jersey Devil—Preceding undated comment added at 17:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 28 January 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé per nom. No such user (talk) 10:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eduardo Rodríguez (judge) → Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé – Using both paternal and maternal last name is more appropriate than the (politician) specification. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). No such user (talk) 20:07, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Oppose We shouldn't be giving a misleading impression as to what the normal name used is. The current title was set by RM. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Krisgabwoosh and Timrollpickering: Eduardo Rodríguez (politician) is a #redirect page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Timrollpickering:Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé is the name of the article on Spanish Wikipedia. As well, Rodríguez Veltzé (both names) are the most common usage of the name in Bolivian media.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] In instances where only one name is used, most article only uses Veltzé^[6]^[7] or hyphen combination of both names.^[8] There are very few examples where just Rodríguez is used. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bolivia, Opinión. "Rodríguez Veltzé será parte del Consejo Preconstituyente para reforma judicial en la CPE". Opinión Bolivia (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Rodríguez Veltzé llama un 'triste espectáculo' al gobierno de Áñez". La Razón | Noticias de Bolivia y el Mundo. Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Rodríguez Veltzé: Una proporción importante de agua fluye de Chile a Bolivia". www.paginasiete.bo (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ Bolivia, Opinión. "Rodríguez Veltzé afirma que discursos de las nuevas autoridades instan a trabajar "en paz y con unidad"". Opinión Bolivia (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Renuncia Rodríguez Veltzé, delegado de Bolivia en La Haya". Los Tiempos (in Spanish). 2019-11-12. Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Veltzé califica de inoportuno y poco profesional el comunicado de la Cancillería sobre el Silala". Los Tiempos (in Spanish). 2020-02-17. Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Por decreto, Veltzé llamó a comicios en 2005 y Evo designó tribunos en 2006". www.paginasiete.bo (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.
^ "Agente boliviano Eduardo Rodríguez-Veltzé: "La demanda de Bolivia es absolutamente clara y no ha variado"". 24horas.cl. Retrieved 2021-01-28.

Support per nomination and per detailed links. For the most part, main title headers of English Wikipedia articles avoid adding maternal surnames for individuals from the Spanish-speaking world or patronymics for individuals from the Russian-speaking world, etc, even if those are the forms used by subjects' native Wikipedias. However, exceptions are made when the individuals in question are strongly referenced by their full names. Such appears to be the case in this instance. The discussion at Talk:Eduardo Rodríguez#Requested move 27 June 2020 centered upon the contention that the former President of Bolivia was not sufficiently prominent to serve as the dab page's WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The propriety of using his maternal surname instead of a parenthetical qualifier was not raised as a topic. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose per nom. Most English references list without the maternal surname, but the Spanish one's show an opposite trend.--Ortizesp (talk) 02:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support similar case to Zapatero, where the maternal surname is emphasized because it is much more rare/distinctive than the paternal surname. (t · c) buidhe 14:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning support per WP:NDAB. A more natural title. BD2412 T 02:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] Bolivia, Opinión. "Rodríguez Veltzé será parte del Consejo Preconstituyente para reforma judicial en la CPE". Opinión Bolivia (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[2] "Rodríguez Veltzé llama un 'triste espectáculo' al gobierno de Áñez". La Razón | Noticias de Bolivia y el Mundo. Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[3] "Rodríguez Veltzé: Una proporción importante de agua fluye de Chile a Bolivia". www.paginasiete.bo (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[4] Bolivia, Opinión. "Rodríguez Veltzé afirma que discursos de las nuevas autoridades instan a trabajar "en paz y con unidad"". Opinión Bolivia (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[5] "Renuncia Rodríguez Veltzé, delegado de Bolivia en La Haya". Los Tiempos (in Spanish). 2019-11-12. Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[6] "Veltzé califica de inoportuno y poco profesional el comunicado de la Cancillería sobre el Silala". Los Tiempos (in Spanish). 2020-02-17. Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[7] "Por decreto, Veltzé llamó a comicios en 2005 y Evo designó tribunos en 2006". www.paginasiete.bo (in Spanish). Retrieved 2021-01-28.

[8] "Agente boliviano Eduardo Rodríguez-Veltzé: "La demanda de Bolivia es absolutamente clara y no ha variado"". 24horas.cl. Retrieved 2021-01-28.

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