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A fact from Dusko Doder appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dusko Doder reported the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, before any official announcement?

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 talk 11:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Dusko Doder was able to surmise that Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, had died from the evening lighting at the Soviet Defense Ministry and a change to classical music on radio and television?

Source: "Doder, who was known for his scoops, was reporting for The Post in February 1984 when he noticed hundreds of lights blazing at the Soviet Defense Ministry in Moscow. He surmised that the Soviet leader, Yuri Andropov, had died. United States officials, dismissing the suggestion, said that Mr. Doder was “smoking pot,” as he and Ms. Branson wrote in a 2021 memoir, “The Inconvenient Journalist.”

“Soviet television and radio Thursday night unexpectedly changed scheduled programs to classical music,” Mr. Doder’s dispatch read. “The unusual change came against the backdrop of the illness of Soviet leader Yuri Andropov.”"

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- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/GhGk-63
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome

Created by Thriley (talk) and ForsythiaJo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 144 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough. No copyvio or OR found. QPQ is done. Appeared on the main page, but as an RD.
Hook is interesting, and sourced in the article. Regarding alt hooks, I mean, what a life. Lots of possibilities in finding a friend to fund international travel, covering Tiananmen and the breakup of Yugoslavia, the classic UK libel suit. That said, I like the current one, no need to mess with a good thing. CMD (talk) 16:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that journalist Dusko Doder announced the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, a day before the Soviet government after noticing changes to the lighting at a government building and a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television? Thriley (talk) 17:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: What do you think of this hook? It feels a bit more hooky. Thriley (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With the changes that it Doder "reported" before the Soviet Union "announced" it would work, as he sent the info to his newspaper which published on the day of the Soviet announcement. CMD (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that Dusko Doder reported the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, a day before the Soviet government announced it after he noticed changes to the lighting at a government building and a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television? Thriley (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: It looks like the previous hooks exceed the character count. Here's a shorter one: ALT3 ... that Dusko Doder reported the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, before any official announcement after noticing a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television? Thriley (talk) 18:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A shameful day for me, the DYK reviewer. You can also just replace "was able to surmise" in ALT0 with "surmised" and it is in the limit, but any formulation works. CMD (talk) 01:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]