Talk:Downsend School
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[edit]Downsend school costs £3000 - £4000 a term so only rich kids go there << Actually, no. I'm not rich and i used to go there, lots of the people there aren't rich, although some are, they're not all rich, they're just well off, plus they keep changing prices, it used to be a bit cheaper (at least that's what i gathered)
Merge
[edit]No rationale has been listed for this merge. This article is far too long to make a merge practical. Dahliarose (talk) 17:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- The length of the article is not the point. The point is it only has 1 reference!! I tend to oppose deletions or mergers of any secondary school articles (who have pupils to at least the age of 16) But with Downsend the upper age range is 13. In order for this article to become notable we either need references showing notability OR at least some evidence of notable alumni. Bleaney (talk) 17:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- But we don't merge articles just because they lack references! The age of the pupils makes no difference. "Notability" depends on the availability of references. 17:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- And we dont keep articles because they are long!!! Are there any references establishing notability? Bleaney (talk) 18:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- The school was founded in 1891 and normally sufficient references can be found to produce a decent standalone article for any school of this age apart from the really tiny village schools. I've not had time to search for any references as yet. The article had a merge tag dating back to June 2011. There had been no discussion about a merge on the talk page, and no reasons for the merge given so the tag seemed somewhat redundant. However, when I removed the tag another user reinstated but he still hasn't given any reasons as to why he thinks a merge is appropriate. Dahliarose (talk) 18:51, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- The length of the article is not the point. The point is it only has 1 reference!! I tend to oppose deletions or mergers of any secondary school articles (who have pupils to at least the age of 16) But with Downsend the upper age range is 13. In order for this article to become notable we either need references showing notability OR at least some evidence of notable alumni. Bleaney (talk) 17:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ludicrously hard to find good online references, but there is no justification for the merge suggestion. How about finding more references? I found three in about 15 minutes work Fiddle Faddle (talk) 19:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- I didnt make the original merge suggestion. My point is simply that as of now this article doesnt meet notability standards. Bleaney (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- It does, just. But it's a close run thing. I've added a number of references that pass WP:RS, but more are needed, and the advertcruft needs to be removed. I know pretty much nothing about the place, but I do know it's been around for ages. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- OpposeI must say the way this and a whole load of other Merge tags that seem to have been added to prep school articles without any attempt at justification strikes me as agenda pushing by a single editor. lack of references is most certainly not a reason for merger; lack of notability of course is, however such a lack has not been proven and indeed no attempt has been made to do so in almost all cases. 86.2.164.57 (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- It does, just. But it's a close run thing. I've added a number of references that pass WP:RS, but more are needed, and the advertcruft needs to be removed. I know pretty much nothing about the place, but I do know it's been around for ages. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose merge per Dahliarose and Fiddle Faddle. Moonraker (talk) 17:13, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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The article's pretty good but doesn't say about the uniform or the charity run thingies that the year 8s do, or the various sporting matches that the school participates in. Or the CHRISTMAS FAIR! Which is so fun. Good article but could do with more of the less official stuff. It sounds like an advertisement... |
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Foundation date
[edit]This is a bit confused. My memory from my days is of the school celebrating 70 years in 1988 and then a centenary in 1991 (at Prize Day in 1991 the-then headmaster conceded the confusion and explained 1988 was 70 years of involvement by the Linfords though I'm not sure that was quite the focus in 1988). I had moved on well before 1998 so didn't see what if anything was said or done then.
IIUC the site has had a school on it since 1891 but it was brought out in 1918 by the Linfords, hence both dates were commemorated in my time there. The impression given was that Downsend is basically the 1891 school with the Linford family having been involved since 1918 and I can't recall any mention of the Hampstead school or mergers or 1898. Now the school history seems to be of starting in Hampstead in 1898, establishing a brother site in 1918 through replacing the previous school and then absorbing the Hampstead school on the Leatherhead site in 1940 with the older date now entrenched. Has anyone got anything deeper than the website to establish a clear foundation date? Timrollpickering (talk) 17:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)