Talk:Dorian Gray (character)
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Notability and other issues
[edit]This page is student work done by my class, and I apologize for its rough spots. As an English professor, I do feel this page deserves to exist, as Dorian is the central character in an important late Victorian novel, and references to Dorian's wish are made in popular media. I understand that it needs improvement and hope that other editors will work on this, as I hope to do myself. keneckertKeneckert (talk) 12:41, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- I have removed neutrality and confusing templates added by User:Elliot321 as I don't see those as relevant: the article reads as neutral in light of WP:NPOV, and while it has other issues, it is not confusing (it is clear what it is about). I have left the notability tag as while I think the character is likely to be notable (ex. I see some discussion of him at https://www.jstor.org/stable/29533343?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents, Frank Hormesch (9 January 2015). The lasting appeal of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". Character design, main themes and film adaptations. GRIN Publishing. ISBN 978-3-656-87269-6. and Joseph Pearce (2000). The Unmasking of Oscar Wilde. Ignatius Press. pp. 223–. ISBN 978-1-58617-026-4., and there is a ton other works to look at), this article mentions not a single secondary source discussing the significance of the character in literary analysis, real world, etc. Currently, this is a pure plot summary, and as such that tag is justified. I added tags for technical issues: grammar ("who has a cynicism"), underlinked, no footnotes and quotefarm for the quote section (famous according to whom? at best we can link to wikiquote). Still, given this is a student assignment still in progress, we should let it run its course before considering deletion/merging. The student has done the easy part - plot summary. Now they have to add a referenced literary analysis showing the significance of the character (if the article is to be kept). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Who is Kelso?
[edit]The article says of Dorian's mother that "Her grandfather had a strong dislike for Kelso". But who is Kelso? He (I presume) isn't mentioned anywhere else in this article, nor in the main article about the novel. It might be best to just simplify him out of the section. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 11:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Portrayal
[edit]The portrayal section basically just reads like more plot summary. I'm not an expert, but I don't think a wikipedia editor should be creating their own analysis of a character's portrayal (even though that's not what's happening in this section). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toad02 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Deletion?
[edit]This article has essentially the same information as The Picture of Dorian Gray. Not only does this copy text of that article, it also seems to have taken from other, related ones, like Adaptations of The Picture of Dorian Gray.
It also seems to be abandoned by its original editors (a student and their professor) and doesn't seem to have gone through any substantial changes since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toad02 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Plot
[edit]Characters don't have plots. Why is there a plot section? The plot belongs in The Picture of Dorian Gray. Toddst1 (talk) 00:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Typically, Fictional Character pages might have a "Fictional Character Biography" section. A good example is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (character) Dspark76 (talk) 22:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Alternately, the article Frankenstein's monster contains a plot section specific to the original novel but also provides information on other adaptations. Dspark76 (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)