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Requested move 11 September 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: split into two separate articles. Rasa Šataitė, there is broad agreement here that a split is the right thing to do and, as you seem to have a good knowledge of the topic area, it would be good if you could go ahead with it. As I see it, you should create a new article at Dona Branca (grape) (or Dona Branca grape, whichever you prefer) – if you use any content from this article to create it, just make sure you follow Wikipedia's copying within Wikipedia guideline and write in the edit summary something like "content copied from Doña Blanca". The once the content that should be at Dona Branca is removed from this article, we can either keep it where it is or move it to Síria, depending on which name is more commonly used. Please drop me a note on my talk page if you have any questions, I'll be happy to help. Jenks24 (talk) 21:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Doña Blanca → Dona Branca (grape) – According to the book "Wine Grapes - A complete guide to 1,368 vine varieties, including their origins and flavours" written by Jancis Robinson, Julia Harding and Dr. José Vouillamoz (pg. 608), Dona Branca is a low-acid Portuguese grape variety meanwhile the title Doña Blanca redirects to Síria which is also Portuguese descent however a completely different grape. The same information can be found in The European Vitis Database. Rasa Šataitė (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)Relisting.--Aervanath (talk) 17:59, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment whatever the move, shouldn't the lead state Doña Blanca (Spanish "White Lady", also known as Portuguese Dona Branca)? Or if move the invert In ictu oculi (talk) 07:25, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Since the article is a stub, I'll assume the grape variety is mostly Spanish. Therefore, the "ñ" is needed for accurate spelling and pronunciation. As for the other Dona Blanca, that woman must be disambiguated/distinguished as she doesn't seem more significant than the grape itself. --George Ho (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the article is a stub and it was my intention to expand it, however the ambiguity became my problem regarding the name. Again: Dona Branca is a low-acid Portuguese grape variety Doña Blanca is NOT a spanish name for Dona Branca but a synonym for a completely different grape variety called Síria. Hence the move request. - Rasa Šataitė(talk) 11:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, if they are two completely different grapes why are we covering them in the same article? The article should instead be split so that we have one page on Síria/Doña Blanca and another for Dona Branca. Jenks24 (talk) 11:27, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes there should be two articles. Does split requires a new discussion? I'm still new here and still figuring things out.. I just thought that since this article is quite new and incomplete it would be easier to rename it and have a new article created for the other grape. I believe I could have also created two new pages for both grapes and redirect this article to Síria. So what should I do next to have this article split? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasa Šataitė (talk • contribs) 13:18, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Prefer to keep the ñ according to source use. Prefer Doña Blanca grape over parenthetical disambiguation, much like recent changes in naming of animal breeds, noting that sources always include explicit statement as to the thing being a grape, if not a wine grape. Most source use is in a firm context of grapes, or wine, and so it is to be expected that the sources minimize repetition of "grape". However, Wikipedia titles do not exist in the context of grapes or wine. Grape, or wine, is important in the title because the most important about the subject is that it is a wine grape variety. It sounds like the article should be split into two articles. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:08, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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