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Page name

May I ask, why is the page named Diplomatic tensions between Iran and the United States, and not Diplomatic tensions between the United States and Iran? Iran has expressed a willingness to sit down and talk with the United States; while the U.S. has repeatedly rejected and blocked such moves. I propose renaming this page, as above. What do other editors say? smb 22:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What you say about which side is trying diplomacy is correct based on externally sourced references which anyone can find fairly easily, but i don't really see a difference between "between A and B" and "between B and A" - i don't think the order suggests which one is the cause of the tensions. Boud (talk) 01:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Proposal

I propose to merge this artcile with Iran–United States relations because it is the same topic and content. Although, the present article is only part of Iran–United States relations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.251.98 (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support due to the large overlap between the topics. CopaceticThought (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It is a more focused coverage of one story. Iran-US relation is an article that is to cover many stories and we do not want to make it too long. Sinooher (talk) 07:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Iran-United States relations (1979-today) D O N D E groovily Talk to me 18:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Placed relevant templates on this article page and the Iran–United States relations page. November 2011. Batram (talk) 07:28, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:14, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Diplomatic tensions between Iran and the United States → Iran–United States relations after 1979 – Relisting. Jenks24 (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC) As pretty much all the diplomatic tensions are since Iran's Islamic Revolution, this article is essentially about US-Iran relations since 1979, and should be renamed accordingly. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 15:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. See WP:HYPHEN and WP:DASH at WP:MOS. An en dash is needed instead of the first hyphen in the proposed title; and also instead of the second one, but that range is already faulty because "today" is included. So the title is already dated and doomed. With respect, I suggest withdrawing this RM and trying one that has some hope of success. Noetica^Tea? 03:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Moved to support, following revision of the proposed title. Noetica^Tea? 08:14, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- All of your objections are minor technical ones. Rather then withdrawing, please suggest the minor formatting changes and I will change the request accordingly. Would changing (1979-today) to Since 1979 be a better solution? (Also, please type the title as I have no idea how to type an en-dash) D O N D E groovily Talk to me 15:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  No problem. I suggest this: "Iran–United States relations after 1979". But others will specialist knowledge might prefer some variant on that. I will support any reasonable choice. (To make an en dash, insert by clicking on the very first item in the "Insert" range of options, under the edit window in which you type. See WP:DASH for other ways, and a link from there too.) Noetica^Tea? 20:16, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Revised accordingly. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 02:47, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've relisted this so we can get some opinions on Dondegroovily's new proposed title. Jenks24 (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support but Iran–United States relations from 1979 might be even better, since the problems started in (not after) 1979. I would also support work being done to integrate this article and Iran–United States relations making this one a specialised "main" article for the other. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's the whole point of this move request, making this a main article for the other. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 16 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: procedural close: requester has been blocked as a sockpuppet and no one else has !voted in support. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Iran–United States relations after 1979 → Iran–United States conflict – This page reflects on the "tensions" between Iran and the United States. If it focuses on that, I think that the proposed name would be better. It will better enhance the situation between the two, a rather ambiguous conflict, sprawling between direct crisis to proxy warfare througout the Muslim World. It will also better reflect on the name most people use. Either way, I propose this article be renamed due to the reasons above. Trenton698 (talk) 00:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. That is imposing a very particular view on relations after 1979. It is much too ambiguous to characterize it specifically as a "conflict". I am not sure which "people" you are referring to. The current title is NPOV, your proposal moves it to a rather POVish. Walrasiad (talk) 15:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment:When I was refering to people, I was refering to the general population in both contries. Many people believe that both of them are in an active conflict, so it wouuld make more sense. Plus, the title I suggested isn't that POV-ish. Just because it is labeling it a conflict and not relations or tensions does not mean the POV is slanted and put to the other's advantage. They are both in open conflict (confirmed during the Tanker War and the 2019-2020 crisis), which would reasonably make a lot more sense of renaming.Trenton698 (talk) 00:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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