Talk:Defiance (TV series)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Defiance (TV series) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 30 days

Television Low‑importance

	Television portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion. To improve this article, please refer to the style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Science Fiction Low‑importance

	Speculative fiction portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Science Fiction, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of science fiction on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Science FictionWikipedia:WikiProject Science FictionTemplate:WikiProject Science Fictionscience fiction
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Westerns: Television Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Westerns, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Western genre on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WesternsWikipedia:WikiProject WesternsTemplate:WikiProject WesternsWesterns
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Television task force.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened:

April 14 to 20, 2013

This is an article about a real thing

Defiance is a real TV show that exists in the world. It is not a fictional anything. Articles about real things that exist should not be categorized as fictional ANYTHING.
Real things like comic books and TV shows contain any number of fictional elements. They should be categorized by exactly none of them. Categorizing real things as fictional things improperly blends things, causes confusion to readers and will result in category clutter as more and more Fictional Foos categories are added to real things.
Can you please explain what the difficulty is with this concept, that this real thing keeps being added to categories for not real things? Jerry Pepsi (talk) 17:04, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Defiance" (in the fictional universe of this show) meets a reasonable definition for "fictional city states of the US". It is thus reasonable to categorize it as such.

The name in the category is Defiance (TV series), where the name of the state is merely "Defiance". There is a reasonable argument that the name categorized should instead be Defiance (fictional city-state). If it were called Pepsylvania (fictional city-state) in the show Sheer Bloody Obstinacy (TV series), then this would be an argument with some weight behind it. We could certainly create such a redirect to be categorized in such a way (and we often do). However this is just a disambiguator. I see no value in creating it; by your action in simply removing it (rather than creating the redirect) I don't see that you do either. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:25, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Concur with Jerry. This article is about the tv show, not the city/state. That the two happen to have the same name is coincidental. Batman does not belong in the fictional cities, even though Gotham City does. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Source of "Setting" section

I read the "Setting" section of the page and it mentions the back story of the show. Where the Voltan came from, The Pale War, the collapse of government, how things became mutated, etc

I'm curious what the source of this information is? I watched the entire first season and most of the information in this section is never mentioned. --Jimv1983 (talk) 04:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One would assume the information comes from the accompanying video game. 100.35.4.40 (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which language are the aliens talking? Made up or real?91.154.157.192 (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Prose vs. table format for cast lists

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#WP:Prose vs. table format for cast lists. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 (talk) 06:12, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]