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A fact from Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 January 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the U.S. Supreme Court delayed hearing oral arguments in Gamble v. United States due to a national day of mourning proclaimed following the death of George H. W. Bush?

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This is looking like an indiscriminate section about anyone and everyone who wrote an RIP tweet for Bush. Reactions from other former presidents, sitting foreign leaders and Gorbachev I can understand, but why Goldie Hawn, the CEOs of Apple and T-Mobile, and Perez Hilton? What connection do they have to his life and work? Wikipedia should not simply be a mirror of lazy journalism that pads itself with irrelevant celebrity tweets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.229.241 (talk) 17:57, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you to the editor who had the sense to remove this while I was typing the last post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.229.241 (talk) 17:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NP. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meh

I see no reason why this should be as top news at wikipedia and not just in "Recent Deaths" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.149.17.75 (talk) 16:20, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the place to discuss ITN nomination. A nomination was made and there was a strong consensus in favor of posting this as a blurb. That's how we operate. And for the record there have been a few death blurbs that I thought were completely unjustified. It happens. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No date & time for actual funeral?

I've read this 5 times and find not a word on when the actual funeral is going to take place. Which is absolutely crazy, this article (in that regard) or I? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SergeWoodzing ... the funeral occurs over a period of five days from December 2 to December 7. There is no single date. Chetsford (talk) 00:00, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean church services? that would be two dates. December 5 at the Washington National Cathedral in Washington DC & December 6 at the St Martin's Episcopal Church in Houston, TX. GoodDay (talk) 02:27, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, that's what I meant, the funeral rituals. Now they are in there. They weren't, as far as I could see, when I asked in utter astonishment. Did we make a point of having that so unclear then? If so, why? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:44, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think "the lowering of the casket" ~~is notable~~ should be noted if that's what you're referring to. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:51, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What I was rfeferring to, at the time, is only one thing: that one could then read the article 5 times and find nothing in it about the main event, the DC funeral. No real need to comment on anything else here. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fritz Mondale, a no show.

Former vice president, Walter F. Mondale did not attend the funeral. GoodDay (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Presidential couple, first

Not sure if this should be in the article, but George H.W. Bush & his wife Barbara, are the first presidential couple to die in the same year. GoodDay (talk) 00:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 18:27, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re add “death” template

@DBigXray: I respect your opinion but I disagree because you did it too early. There are still parts that are incomplete. Let’s wait a little longer. Tigerdude9 (talk) 23:14, 6 December 2018 (UTC) {{Current}}[reply]

Tigerdude9, Please read the text of the template, nothing applies to this situation anymore. I had removed template, because it has been a week since he died. every news is now reliable about the death. this template is not used to announce someone's death. It is used for events that are ongoing, for example an ongoing shootout, where the news about death is not clear. This template is not used to flag to the reader that wiki editors are working on this article.

Since your restoration, someone else has removed the template and rightly so, please do not restore that, unless you have a strong reason why these things as mentioned in the template are applicable. --DBig Xrayᗙ 07:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia notes

Not sure if these should be in the article or not. Bush's passing means that all living former US presidents were never vice president & all living former US vice presidents were never president. Also, Bush is the fourth consecutive former president to die, who was Republican (Nixon in 1994, Reagan in 2004, Ford in 2006 & Bush in 2018) & the fifth consecutive former vice president to die, who was Republican (Rockefeller in 1979, Nixon in 1994, Agnew in 1996, Ford in 2006 & Bush in 2018). -- GoodDay (talk) 03:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, all trivia. At any given time, there are only a handful of living former presidents. I don't think stats like those, and "first former president to die during Trump's presidency" (which was added earlier and thankfully reverted), are statistically significant. Unless, of course, independent sources start saying they are

. (originally posted at 11:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)) —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:21, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 01:04, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Death and Funeral

Wouldn't this be two events (Death and state funeral), be listed as "events" instead of being living or dead? Adamdaley (talk) 08:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Longest-lived President?

I suggest updating the third sentence, "At the age of 94 years, 171 days Bush was the longest-lived U.S. president in history." He has since been surpassed by Jimmy Carter. Perhaps a better phrasing would be "At the time of his death at the age of ..." etc.? I am not a native English speaker, so I'd rather not edit myself for fear of getting the nuance wrong. Eitheladar (talk) 10:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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wrong link for vascular parkinson

Parkinson and vascular parkinson share many symptoms but with parkinson the cells that produce dopamine die for some unknown reason, while with vascular parkinson multiple brain strokes destroy either these cells or many brain areas with receptors for dopamine. Peterpall (talk) 07:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]