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Requested move 2 December 2024

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David Gilbert (snooker player) → David Gilbert (snooker player, born 1981) – WP:PDAB; see Dave Gilbert (snooker player, born 1961). 162 etc. (talk) 06:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 16:51, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 09:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - this David Gilbert is by far the primary topic for snooker players. A World Championship semi-finalist against someone who never reached a quarter-final in any event. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:33, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: More opinions? —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 16:51, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another alternative option would be to oppose this nomination — David Gilbert (snooker player) → David Gilbert (snooker player, born 1981) — but to pair this oppose vote with a support vote for Dave Gilbert (snooker player, born 1961) → Dave Gilbert (snooker player), with a hatnote atop each snooker player's entry pointing to the other.
There are 42 inline cites as well as database entry at the bottom of the article for the 1981-born snooker player named "David Gilbert", with none referencing him as "Dave Gilbert", thus it does not appear to be helpful for the 1961-born Dave Gilbert (snooker player) redirecting to the 1981-born David Gilbert (snooker player). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the only reason Dave Gilbert (snooker player) redirects here is because it was created 5 years before the Dave Gilbert (snooker player, born 1961) article was created. The redirect is hardly used (only 46 hits all year so far), so no reason the 1961 player couldn't be moved there. Station1 (talk) 06:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'd support such a move Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. As long as the David Gilbert (snooker player) article stays as it is. It already has a hatnote for Dave Gilbert (snooker player, born 1961), so it's only the DABs and redirects that need sorting out.  Alan  (talk) 10:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So David Gilbert is always known as David, and never ever as Dave? In that case, then yes, we could move Dave Gilbert (snooker player, born 1961) → Dave Gilbert (snooker player). 162 etc. (talk) 01:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some commentators refer to him as Dave, but all Davids get called Dave occasionally. However, one of our main sources snooker.org uses the same naming convention that we have: David Gilbert and Dave Gilbert. Also the WST refers to him as David Gilbert.  Alan  (talk) 13:08, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: I still think that both sides have strong arguments with no clear winner. Relisting once again. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 09:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose as clearly PT among these two with over 30x the pageviews over the long term. Under WP:PARTIALDAB we find that when there is a clear PT, then it might be appropriate for that WP:INCOMPDAB to be retained, such as Thriller (album). The only reason for the weak sentiment is because per INCOMPDAB threshold for identifying a primary topic for such titles is higher than for a title without parenthetical disambiguation. I think it would be unquestionably PT if we were not including this provision, but is the threshold sufficient to meet parenthetical dab levels? I believe so but could be persuaded a higher threshold would be required. TiggerJay (talk) 04:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Biography/Sports and games and WikiProject Snooker have been notified of this discussion. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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