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A number of disputes as to the canon of certain DC comics-related animated series have surfaced in the DC animated universe article. A series (and/or its animated movie counterpart) shall not be included in the article unless it meets most of the following criteria:

The series in question has at least one crossover episode with a known DCAU series. Static Shock, for example, wasn't considered canon until its first Batman crossover episode.
The project at hand must heavily involve either Bruce Timm or Paul Dini, the fathers of the DCAU (not including spin-off films from a DCAU series).
The series doesn't directly contradict established DCAU continuity. The Batman, for example, directly conflicts with Batman: The Animated Series, so it cannot be considered canon.
The series utilizes the same basic Bruce Timm animation style as the rest of the DCAU series. Teen Titans uses a radically different animation style from Justice League, for example.
The series must use the same key voice actors that were used in the various DCAU shows. Some exceptions apply, but if Batman appears, for example, he must be voiced by Kevin Conroy.
A series/film/comic/etc. must be released before it can be added to the article. Speculation on whether an upcoming project is canon or not is not a verifiable fact, unless verifiable sources exist stating prior to release that it is in fact canon.

The following notes have been condensed from previously discussed topics:

Neither The Batman nor Krypto the Superdog are considered DCAU canon, as they each take place in their own unique continuities. So they, their various animated film spin-offs, and their comic series' will not be added to the article.
Batman Beyond, The Zeta Project, and Static Shock are confirmed DCAU canon via crossovers, references, allusions and staff confirmation, regardless of fan acceptance.
Most DCAU comic series can be considered as canon, as long as they do not expressly contradict a televised episode. In many cases the stories actually expand upon events show in the various animated series and films. However, not every story in every issue can be canonical - some are expressly out of canon - and very few (excluding mini-series and annuals) have actually been confirmed as in-continuity.
Teen Titans is highly debatable, and no sources exist which directly confirm or deny its continuity, and so unless a new source appears, the article should remain ambiguous to its canonicity.
Superman: Brainiac Attacks is not currently considered DCAU canon despite many points that suggest it could be. Until solid staff confirmation as to its place in canon is released, it will not be added to the article.
The Legion of Super Heroes may be annexed into the DCAU in the future, but as of right now its canonicity, like Teen Titans, is ambiguous (See here for details).
It has been confirmed by Bruce Timm in a previous interview that the DCAU does not age in real time, which in turn makes the so-called Tim Drake/Batman Beyond timing paradox moot.

Aging in Real Time

According to one of Timm's post as wf.toonzone.net, the DCAU doesn't age in real time, easily making it possible for Tim Drake to still be a boy in BB: Return of the Joker.

He is a boy in the flashback or in the real life, when he is about 60s? I didn't understand what you want to say. Batman tas

A request concerning the DC Adventures Comics

I was wondering if there's be consideration on making and entire page dedicated to the comics based on the DCAU. If yes, I have some info I'd be ready to supply to it, such as:

A. DC Comics Characters who didn't appear in the DC Animated Cartoons.
B. Trade Paperbacks and Digests.
C. Links to unused plots/altered stories.

Anyone up to it? 71.115.210.70

Well, each of the DC Adventures series' have their own pages. Why not just add your information to the various DC Adventures series' articles? Chances are if you made a whole new page to deal directly with the things you listed (and what we spoke of above) it would be deleted by someone for being original research (aka non-verifiable facts).

Wiki page for the DCAU's Batman

As a tribute to Kevin Conroy and his legacy, I think it'd make sense if the DCAU's Batman got his own wiki page. 98.165.84.45 (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

would need significant coverage of the specific character, and enough content to warrant a split from the other articles Indagate (talk) 21:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If DCAU Batman gets his own page, then the same must also apply to the DCAU Joker. It's only fair. (118.148.75.0 (talk) 23:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]

Article Cleanup

This page needs some cleaning up. First off, not everything is in the continuity is included. I don't know who keeps taking out Batman and Harley, but it's a part of the continuity. I don't like the film, but I'm less a fan of revisionist history. The film was marketed as a Batman: The Animated Series movie. Also, if Bruce Timm says something is in continuity, why is there an asterisk to it? Then there are things that were never said to be in continuity considered to be (the Batman Beyond short, the various pitches/test reels/short pilots), and then there's offshoot material and whatnot.

Also, the future of the DCAU needs to be revised or removed. There's a quote from 2009 about whether there would be future projects, and then again in 2015, and one from 2018 from Conroy when the last project in the DCAU was in 2019.

So yeah, this clearly needs to be cleaned up. Zero X Marquis (talk) 19:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Batman and Harley Quinn has been stated to take place in a similar but different universe from various quotes from the creative team.

From Bruce Timm:

However, while Batman and Harley Quinn is definitely a spiritual successor to Batman: The Animated Series, whether it’s technically canon by letter of the law isn’t entirely clear, Timm admits.

“I don’t really know. I personally kind of think that it is, but I’m not actually in control of what’s in continuity and what isn’t because there’s been several other classic Batman animated-style movies that I didn’t have anything to do with, so technically they’re canon even though I didn’t have anything to do with them, so technically this could be continuity or it could just be head-canon. I don’t know.”

https://comicbook.com/dc/news/batman-and-harley-quinn-dc-animated-universe-continuity/

From the co-writer, Jim Krieg:

"This is kind of a strange, red-headed nephew of Batman: The Animated Series, but don't show it to your kids thinking that it's Batman: The Animated Series, it is its own thing, kind of extrapolated" (from the Blu-Ray special feature).

"I would say if it's in a universe it's in a B:TAS Universe or B:TAS adjacent, because it's a slightly sillier universe."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aD0W85TcE (at the 1:19 mark)

From the movie's composers:

It was a very different project for him, and it's his story of course, and it was a very different project for us because we are still in a similar universe to Batman: the Animated Series, which we started doing so many years ago together, and this one has so many more comedic elements in it

https://bleedingcool.com/movies/batman-and-harley-quinn-composer-michael-mccuistion/

Walterwhitehartwell (talk) 25:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]