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Context of the article

I changed the map on this article to show the Par to Fowey section as closed (the situation as at May 2007). Geof Sheppard reverted this change with the comment In the context of this article - on the railway up to 1896 - the line should be shown as open.

Which is fair comment if that is indeed the context of the article. But that isn't at all clear to me from the article. I had seen this as an article on a railway line; Geof obviously sees it as an article on a historical railway company. Either is good, but I think we need to be explicit about which it is. Otherwise confusion will continue.

I've applied some sticking plaster, by putting a caption on the map that dates the context of the map. But I suspect something more is needed; just not entirely sure what. -- Chris j wood 16:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the date up to the route diagram header, which should help matters.

the context of these various railway articles is a topic for discussion at the UK railways project page, but my take on it is that "line" articles are about the current railway - in this case that would be Atlantic Coast Line, Cornwall, while railway company articles (such as this Cornwall Minerals Railway) are about the historic companies. Geof Sheppard 07:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some text to the article to link the 'current line' articles for those parts of the CMR route that survive. However in doing so, I've discovered the Lostwithiel and Fowey Railway article probably needs to looking at, as it seems to cover both the company and the line. The article on Lostwithiel railway station links to it as the Fowey branch. Which left me in the odd position of wanting to make this article link to that as both a precursor and a postcursor. So I left the Fowey branch bit as plain text. -- Chris j wood 11:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This issue, of whether an article is about a historic (i.e. defunct) railway company or a railway line always runs through articles like this. I take the view that too strict an adherence to the Company leads to a lot of disjointed articles, especially where multiple amalgamations or -- worse -- transfers of ownership -- took place. It also leads to a lot of fragmentation, making presentation of the geographical context rather tedious. Afterbrunel (talk) 16:59, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Goonbarrow

Do you have any citation of the sale of the Goonbarrow to Cwm Circ Colliery at Llanharan, Wales, 1911. I have just started an article on the town and can't find any info on the colliery. Llanharan's first colliery is stated as 1923. Any ideas.