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On 5 July 2019, it was proposed that this article be moved from Cori Gauff to Coco Gauff. The result of the discussion was not moved (see discussion).

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Nickname

Her Nickname is Coco. She uses this name on her official Twitter account. Per Wikipedia instructions, I'm adding her nickname in double quotations. Instructions can be found here under the nicknames section. Where it says if the nickname is commonly used in place of or in conjunction with the legal name then it should be in double quotations. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography

This Wikipedia page would not be complete if a commonly used nickname was omitted from her page. Princeofearth (talk) 00:56, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been explained to you over and over here, and by an administrator here. And "Coco" is mentioned in the article. Nuff said. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:29, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coco Gauff uses Coco so overwhelmingly (as do most major news and sporting organizations) that this name should be the primary title, simply for ease of access. Furthermore, if the concern regards Wikipedia precedent, Gauff's doubles partner, Catherine 'Caty' McNally, is listed under her nickname as well. StarSnitch (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It may well be that you are correct with Gauff. However I think that as it stands today, McNally is at the wrong title. Most sources I came across use Catherine, not Caty. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:00, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 September 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) ~SS49~ {talk} 13:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cori Gauff → Coco Gauff – Gauff's WP:COMMONNAME is Coco.

In an interview at Wimbledon, Gauff was asked "Just to be clear, do you prefer to be known as Cori or Coco?", to which she replied, "I prefer to be called Coco."
Gauff has a new advertising campaign with New Balance called "#CallMeCoco." Her shoes say "Call Me Coco."
I imagine part of the reason she doesn't go by Cori is that her father is named Corey, which sounds the same (as her parents intended).

What do major US websites call her?

ESPN: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka and Coco Gauff teach a lesson in humility)
Sports Illustrated: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka beats Coco Gauff, ends 15-year-old's US Open run)
Tennis.com: Coco (e.g. Twelve hours that changed the life of 15-year-old Coco Gauff)
New York Times: Coco (e.g. Look Closely for Coco Gauff's Homage to New York Tennis)
Washington Post: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka ousts Coco Gauff at U.S. Open with a win that showcased more than just her skill)

What do major UK websites call her?

BBC: Coco (e.g. US Open: Naomi Osaka beats Coco Gauff to reach fourth round)
The Guardian: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka ends Coco Gauff's US Open fairytale)
Sky Sports: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka dominates teenage star Coco Gauff at US Open)

What do major Australian websites call her?

ABC: Coco (e.g. Naomi Osaka beats Coco Gauff at US Open, prompting tears from the 15-year-old American)
The Australian: Coco (e.g. US Open 2019: Coco Gauff in tears after loss to Naomi Osaka)

The WTA website lists her officially as Cori Gauff, but they refer to her as Coco in all of their news articles (e.g. ‘Coco, I think you’re amazing’ - Naomi Osaka and Coco Gauff’s emotional moment after US Open clash). We already list other players by their nicknames even though their official names are different on the WTA and ITF websites, including CiCi Bellis (officially listed as Catherine Bellis) and Caty McNally (officially listed as Catherine McNally). Coco should be no different from CiCi or Caty.

There was an WP:RM that failed last month, but it was started by someone who opposed moving the page to begin with. As a result, no one actually ever provided evidence for moving the page. When she first rose to prominence at Wimbledon, people didn't know to call her Coco yet. Now they do. Recent articles at the US Open almost all call her Coco. We should follow their lead. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 08:06, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nominator. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 08:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and WP:NAMECHANGES. I was considering opening this RM next week, as there has been a load of coverage about her since the last RM (which I didn't !vote in as I couldn't decide whether to support or oppose). But the nominator does a great job of listing how sources have adopter her nickname as her WP:COMMONNAME. Iffy★Chat -- 08:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - One thing, the WTA and ITF call her Cori because that is what she told them to call her. Perhaps she is in the process of correcting that, I don't know. But based on the press, her own words, and even the US Open draw sheet, I would also go with Coco. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just want to point out that there's a little more nuance in RS usage than the nomination statement suggests. I checked three of the listed sources (ESPN, NYTimes, and The Guardian), and in each case, they had a mix, with some articles using "Cori" and some using "Coco" (and some using both). However, in each case, their recent coverage overwhelmingly favoured "Coco". For example, if you google site:theguardian.com "Cori Gauff", you get articles from July 2019 or earlier. If you google site:theguardian.com "Coco Gauff", the first page of results are almost all from August. Similarly, the New York Times essentially stopped using "Cori" in early July (with the exception of a recent piece of reporting from Reuters that they reprinted). Colin M (talk) 18:53, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I opposed the previous RM, saying it was too soon. At that time, sources were genuinely divided between "Cori" and "Coco". However, it seems like, in the last month or so, RS have switched over to clearly favouring "Coco" (perhaps because it's become very clear that that's how she prefers to be known). Colin M (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Apart from everything else, her Twitter feed has a thread headed "Call me Coco", her family and supporters wear "Call me Coco" T-shirts, and, per WP:BLP, we should do that. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Per nom { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:54, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: I support this move! I have been attempting to add her nickname Coco to her Wikipedia page for days now. Cori Gauff more commonly goes by her nickname Coco and her official Twitter page uses her nickname and not her birth name. Her Twitter page is here. https://twitter.com/cocogauff Princeofearth (talk) 23:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Given the player's clear personal preference and the overwhelming adoption by sport media over the last couple of months, this seems like a very easy move at this point. US Referee (talk) 15:03, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I wasn't even aware that she was actually called Cori until now. News coverage overwhelmingly calls her Coco, and she prefers to be called that anymore, therefore this should defo be moved. mike•owen ^discuss 13:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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McCoco

Now that the article has been moved to "Coco", there needs to be an acknowledgement in the article that the team of Gauff and McNally is known as "McCoco". It is well sourced: Tennis.com, ESPN, New York Times, Forbes, and Fox News. --2001:BB6:4713:4858:F03C:9097:6898:45C9 (talk) 17:18, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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She didn’t yet make the finals in doubles. Only semifinals.

Suggest you adjust accordingly. 2601:240:4881:3A30:9D52:6DA:5D85:2148 (talk) 01:30, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Win-loss record for 2022

In career stat section grand slam win-loss record states 15 wins and 5 losses, should be 12-4, you can't lose 5 grand slam matches in one year :) Prekicgo (talk) 20:26, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Harris endorsement 2024

Coco Gauff endorsed Kamala Harris for the 2024 US presidential election^[1]. This is already mentioned on List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements. Should this be mentioned here also? I agree because the information is present on the other article so it is only coherent that it is mentioned here also. In addition, such statements are to be found on other celebrity pages. @Fyunck(click) disagrees because they say that it is not encyclopedic enough and we would be overrun. Munci (talk) 13:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC) Munci (talk) 13:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ McLeman, Neil (2024-08-23). "Coco Gauff makes her feelings on Kamala Harris crystal clear on eve of US Open". Daily Express. Retrieved 2024-08-25.

What are the views of other editors? Munci (talk) 13:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be editing other Harris campaign articles and Trump articles. The problem with this is are we going to start adding all her political endorsements every time she makes them? If she endorses a proposition 72 do we post that here? In next year's elections do we post her choices here as well? Is this item you want added something that will remain by next summer? It's one thing if in a political article, endorsement's are mentioned by famous people (but even that smacks of turning wikipedia into a political rag). It's quite another to start mentioning it in bios of all those celebrities. When does it end? Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Murray has a paragraph about his support for independence in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum. Beyoncé has a section on politics, while Taylor Swift has a separate article for the political impact of Taylor Swift. This is not specific to politics either, because other side-articles can be of a rather different nature e.g. popular culture references to Sherlock Holmes. Munci (talk) 20:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested a Wikipedia:Third opinion as the issue has not yet been resolved annd only two editors have as of yet participated. Munci (talk) 14:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3O Response: I'm not convinced by the WP:OTHERSTUFF arguments to justify inclusion of this information. A person's endorsement of a political candidate would need a lot of coverage to justify inclusion into a biography of a living person. As it stands, this just seems like a piece of trivia that's fine for inclusion at List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements, but not something that belongs in this article. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 14:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC) Nemov (talk) 14:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Munci (talk) 17:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need a couple more images here

We don't need a lot of images, but more than one would be nice. We need one serving, one returning, one backhand, and one forehand. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] McLeman, Neil (2024-08-23). "Coco Gauff makes her feelings on Kamala Harris crystal clear on eve of US Open". Daily Express. Retrieved 2024-08-25.

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