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On 2 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Global warming conspiracy theory to Climate change conspiracy theory. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Should the title say "Global Warming" or "Climate Change"?

Requested move 2 October 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Global warming conspiracy theory → Climate change conspiracy theory – The phrase "global warming" is currently deprecated. According to NASA: "Changes to precipitation patterns and sea level are likely to have much greater human impact than the higher temperatures alone." [1] Hank Benson (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Climate change has been notified of this discussion. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:04, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:CONSISTENT, for consistency with the primary article which was moved from global warming to climate change in 2020. Rreagan007 (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per the reasons given above. I thought we had already renamed all the sub-articles after the move from climate change to global warming. It seems that we missed this one. EMsmile (talk) 08:51, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —RCraig09 (talk) 15:51, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks like an oversight to not have done it already. --McSly (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per above. More accurate. Invasive Spices (talk) 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Comment – how about Conspiracy theories about climate change, similar to conspiracy theories about the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. cookie monster 755 07:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 15:14, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger

I propose to merge this to global warming controversy (the final title could be discussed later, perhaps "climate change controversy", or it might be merged later with climate change denial). We have too many overlapping articles on this. EMsmile (talk) 12:08, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. There is a discussion at Talk:History of climate change policy and politics to merge Global warming controversy to History of climate change policy and politics. The Controversy article should not exist because the "controversy" is fabricated by deniers. Global warming controversy is a bad destination for any content, because it's probably (hopefully) going to be merged out of existence. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see it just as an "interim merge". Whereever Global warming controversy is merged to (my preference is to climate change denial), this article could be merged to the same location. Or? EMsmile (talk) 08:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RCraig09 would you agree to either: that Climate change conspiracy theory is merged to climate change denial; or that it is merged into global warming controversy temporarily, knowing that that article will later be merged/dissolved as well (pending outcome of discussion). I am fine with either option. Perhaps the first option is easier, i.e. merging into climate change denial. - If you disagree with both options, do you have a third option? Or is your preference to keep it as a stand-alone article, i.e. to keep the status quo on this one? EMsmile (talk) 21:53, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For info - above discussion now finished Chidgk1 (talk) 18:27, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support now you have trimmed the target article somewhat Chidgk1 (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's complicated. Frankly, I'm not following this confusing set of proposals for this loose collections of articles. My main hope is to eliminate, for all eternity, Climate change controversy. Any "controversy" is fabricated by conspiracy theorists, and does not deserve a standalone article, even for an instant. Anything that could be placed into a Controversy article, even on an interim basis, should be placed directly into the article into which the supposed Controversy would ultimately be absorbed. —RCraig09 (talk) 22:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's complicated and it'll take us some time to find consensus about the global warming controversy problem. The discussion is here: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Climate_change_denial#Merge_global_warming_controversy_into_here? . Meanwhile, I find it easier to figure all this out by taking a step-wise approach and by generally merging similar articles into fewer articles. So then if it's OK by you, I would merge Climate change conspiracy theory into climate change denial. Bits might also fit or overlap with psychology of climate change denial which is then a sub-article of climate change denial. EMsmile (talk) 08:55, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the details of these articles, but in general I'm in favor of consolidating articles as long as the result is concise and isn't too long. Wikipedia has become bloated over >22 years, and cleaning/organizing isn't very interesting to most editors. —RCraig09 (talk) 16:37, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've carried out the merger to climate change denial now. More work is required to condense and shrink down climate change denial now. Some of the content could be moved to psychology of climate change denial. EMsmile (talk) 10:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]