Talk:Chris Chandler (American football)

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I added a couple of citations, and I added a couple of "citation needed" tags for some facts I was not able to verify. Maybe due to his frequent status of traveling between bad teams, good material on Chandler seems difficult to come by. I spent a good bit of time researching, but was not able to find anything to the effect that he's the oldest player to have scored on a 2-point conversion. More significantly, there's a problem with the statement that he's "started for an NFL-record eight teams". He played for the Rams twice, once in L.A. and once in St. Louis. Do we really consider that to be two different teams? Mark Royals and Karl Wilson have played for eight different teams, so I dispute whether it's accurate to include Chandler in that list. I propose to delete that statement, unless somebody can provide a citation that he legitimately holds that record.GuySperanza (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree. Yes the Rams changed cities, but they were still the same team. Or do we consider players that played for the Rams last year and this year to be on different teams since they changed locations again? Chandler played for 7 teams, not 8. 67.253.250.154 (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 23 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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result:
1st proposal moved to Chris Chandler (American football) per consensus seen below. Also see agreement to redirect the ambiguous base name to the dab page and to let that page keep its current title. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 07:17, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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• Chris Chandler → ?
• Christopher Chandler → ?

– Is this person the primary topic over the other people listed at Christopher Chandler? If so, he's probably also the primary topic for "Christopher Chandler" and the disambiguation page should be moved to Christopher Chandler (disambiguation). If not, then he's probably not the primary topic for this title either, and should be moved to Chris Chandler (American football) with Chris Chandler pointing to the dismbiguation page. The current situation, in which the nickname has a primary topic but the full name doesn't, is highly unlikely to be ideal and seems to have emerged by historical accident rather than a deliberate decision. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:14, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. I don't see any evidence that the others at the dabpage Christopher Chandler are commonly known as "Chris". There's no problem here. 162 etc. (talk) 18:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC) Updated Struck vote; see comment below by User:Firefangledfeathers. 162 etc. (talk) 02:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support moving Chris Chandler → Chris Chandler (American football) and redirecting Chris Chandler to the dab page Christopher Chandler. Christopher Chandler (politician) does appear to be commonly called "Chris". All but one of that article's cited sources refer to him as Chris. I haven't poked around enough to know if a move to Chris Chandler is warranted per COMMONNAME, but I have seen enough uses of "Chris" to suggest that the consistency of the article sources isn't a crazy fluke. Pinging 162 etc. as this (at least partially) addresses the lack of evidence they point to in their !vote. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Support this.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose moving Chris Chandler → Chris Chandler (American football). The quarterback appears to be the best-known "Chris Chandler" (I'd say playing over a decade as starting QB in the NFL is definitely more notable than serving a few years in a California court). For example, when I looked up "Chris Chandler" on Newspapers.com, all but one of the matches on the first five pages of results were about the NFL player. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:39, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

  @BeanieFan11: Would you support the reverse move (move the dab page to Christopher Chandler (disambiguation) and redirect "Christopher Chandler" to this article) then? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:41, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Eh, I guess that's fine, but it doesn't seem like the NFL player is usually called that (I searched Newspapers.com for "Christopher Chandler" but was not able to find any articles about the football player in the first five pages of results). BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:10, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support current setup, per initial (and subsequently struck) "oppose" vote by 162 etc., but would not oppose moving Chris Chandler → Chris Chandler (American football) and redirecting Chris Chandler to the dab page Christopher Chandler, per Firefangledfeathers. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose move per evidence by BeanieFan11. I agree with the nom that this is an unusual situation, but the quarterback does seem to be the primary topic for "Chris", but is seldom referred to by his full name "Christopher". No such user (talk) 11:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.