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Restoration of the article proposal

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Why is this redirected and removed? I suggest we restore the article to align with other languages and give consensus (possibly RFC(m) to reestablish the article like Korea is. -184.146.39.97 (talk) 01:42, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed article is poorly sourced and seems to duplicate much of the subject matter in the China article. What is the rationale for splitting it as proposed? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the slight problem, China is the name of the region that encompasses mainland China and Taiwan island and is governed by two separate entities since the division in 1949. It needs a slight rewording and format similar to Korea and is the only article in the English Wikipedia that did not follow the structure used in the China article on the Chinese Wikipedia. —184.146.39.97 (talk) 08:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What divison do you mean? Republic China existed before 1949 and still exists. In 1949 Communists just created their own Communist China (People's Republic of China) which was unrecognised state. It is similar to occupied territories of Ukraine today. Eurohunter (talk) 10:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have translated the Chinese Wikipedia article and placed it in Draft:China (region). This might help address the issue of poor sourcing.
And The China region refers to the geographical area that includes mainland China, and sometimes nearby areas historically influenced by Chinese civilization. Greater China encompasses mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan, all linked by common cultural and historical ties despite political differences. The East Asia Cultural Sphere is a broader concept that includes China, Japan, Korea, and sometimes Vietnam, recognizing shared cultural influences like Confuciani.. 36.230.3.161 (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With the split possible, do you support or oppose the change? -184.146.39.97 (talk) 08:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose it, as the proposed article is poorly sourced and duplicates too much subject matter that should be covered in China and other articles. It's also unclear to me how the proposed topic differs from the Greater China region (the redirect's current target). —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:27, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why is thei an RfC matter (see WP:RFCNOT)? Surely WP:DRV would be more appropriate. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Or maybe WP:RfD. The last RfD discussion resulted in a retarget, but I see the redirect's target has been changed a couple of times since then, so maybe another RfD discussion is warranted. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 09:48, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Another IP editor had been expanding the redirect into a whole article. Can you help reason with him, given that he insists on doing so? MimirIsSmart (talk) 05:07, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, the relevant topics are already covered at China, Greater China, and Sinosphere. The IP editors have not convincingly articulated what distinct topic this proposed article is supposed to cover as opposed to those. Anyone who wants to turn this from a redirect into an article needs to articulate what the proposed topic is and gain consensus for it. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 05:21, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've requested redirect protection for now, hopefully someone is actually willing to do so. MimirIsSmart (talk) 05:23, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you visit the Chinese Wikipedia, you should find it easy to understand. 36.230.3.161 (talk) 05:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]