Talk:Chief Wahoo

Chief Wahoo was nominated as a Sports and recreation good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 17, 2014). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Subject of June 2013 Cleveland Frowns blog entry

The Cleveland sports blog "Cleveland Frowns" has posted an entry on this article. The blog's author is an outspoken critic of the Cleveland Indians' continued use of Chief Wahoo. Levdr1lp / talk 13:13, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Archived link to the now-deleted 2013 article: [1]. TJRC (talk) 02:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split

As recommended in the GA review, the controversy content can be moved to a new article, leaving this to contain the origins and history of the logo. In accordance with the similar article, the Washington Redskins name controversy, the likely title would be Cleveland Indians name and logo controversy. The content of both articles should be further reduced by summarizing.FriendlyFred (talk) 04:15, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After cleanup, moving content, and checking links, I am now ready to create a new article from the entire Controversy section, and the other "Statements..." sections which are also about the controversy.FriendlyFred (talk) 20:55, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically enough, both the Indians and the Redskins were originally named in reference to the Boston Braves. And the Braves name had a connection to Tammany Hall, the NYC political machine. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FriendlyFred, thanks for your work on this article. I think there are good arguments to be made both for and against a split. The best argument in favor of a split is the length of the article.

But I think the situation with the Washington name/logo controversy is a little different. The naming controversy is a perennial issue, but most published sources that discuss the team are talking specifically and primarily about football, not the controversy. With Chief Wahoo, most published sources are talking about the controversy itself. Even sources that discuss the history and use of the logo are discussing it within the context of that controversy. If a split makes sense, I think the primary article should continue to reflect that context. Anotherpioneer (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After a week without opposition to a split, I have created the new article Cleveland Indians name and logo controversy and will proceed to remove most of the controversy content from here.FriendlyFred (talk) 02:24, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done for now, both remain articles that are too detailed.FriendlyFred (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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