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Reichskonkordat

Why is there no mention of the Reichskonkordaton this page? There is a length entry on this subject, but the word is not even mentioned here. It seems like a case of whitewashing. Vectronn (talk) 09:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Secularisartion has hit

"has hit" in "Securalisation has hit in Germany as elsewhere in Europe;" is a little provocative. Maybe this can be changed? Cuvtixo 23:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

do go ahead... there's an "edit" button on the page. dab (𒁳) 13:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"one third of the total population is Catholic (31.2% or 25.684.890 people as of December 2006)[1] compared to 45% in 1970"* 1970's number is only West Germany so it's not realy comparable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.210.235 (talk) 18:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in World War II discussion?

I get the feeling of "white wash" in the section on the Catholic Church, Germany and the Holocaust. There has been much more debate over the church's role than the article describes. John Cornwall in Hitler's Pope speaks of Pius XII signing a concordat giving essentially free rein to the Nazis--a very different conclusion from what the article portrays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.32 (talk) 06:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hitler's Pope is not known to be a serious book. --84.154.112.133 (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. There is not even a mention of the Reichsconcordat even though there is a lengthy entry about it elsewhere. Vectronn (talk) 09:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holy See - Germany relations

There ought to be an separate article on Holy See – Germany relations, which would talk about the mainly diplomatic and politcal aspects of Germany's relations with the Church. [1] ADM (talk) 14:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Undue weight: CDU stuff

I move the following here, as it seems to be a case of undue weight:

German Catholicism also has political weight through the Christian Democratic Union. Recently, Jorg van Essen, parliamentary manager of the Free Democrats, noted that "the Christian Democratic Union is still very much a Catholic party."^[1] Not surprisingly, in Nov., 2009, a number of politicians from the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU), launced a new working group called "The Circle for Committed Catholics in Politics and Society" (Arbeitskreis Engagierter Katholiken) to promote faith and values in office. So far it has attracted 500 members. German Minister of Education and deputy head of the CDU, Annette Schavan, told the RHEINISCHE POST (24, November) that "a new circle could have an inspirational effect on the debate as to what should be on the CDU's programme." She herself would not be joining, however. "People know I'm Catholic. I don't need a special circle," she said.^[2] According to the German weekly, Der Spiegel, 4% of practicing Catholics have withdrawn from the Christian Democratic Union because they think Angela Merkel is "not Christian enough."^[3]

It seems more relevant to the CDU than to the Catholic Church. Furthermore, it presents the view that the CDU is a Catholic party as a fact when it really is the (contentious) opinion of a political rival. It also lacks context for the Arbeitskreis, implying that it is a strong body which strengthens Catholic influence when in fact it is a reaction to a dwindling of that influence. That the Arbeitskreis was founded 60 years after the beginning of the Federal Republic of Germany, while the Protestant Arbeitskreis existed from the beginning, should be telling. Finally, Schavan is no longer minister or deputy head of the CDU. Str1977 ^(talk) 09:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Judy Dempsey, "Victory Brings Risk of Conflict with Merkel's Allies," The New York Times, 27 September 2009.
^ Christa Pongratz-Lippitt, "New political group will further loyalty to Rome," The Tablet, 5 Dec., 2009, 36.
^ Editors, "Merkel Not Christian Enough," The Tablet, 30 January 2010, 34.

Requested move 2 October 2016

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The result of the move request was: Procedural close per WP:MULTI. Follow-up instead at Talk:Roman Catholicism in Armenia#Requested move 2 October 2016. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 00:37, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Catholicism in Germany → Catholic Church in Germany – In consistancy with other equivalent articles, including Catholic Church, Catholic Church in England and Wales, Catholic Church in the United States, etc. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep If consistency is the criterion, then this nomination must fail since almost all other articles in the Category:Roman Catholic Church by country category uses the current naming convention. If it's consistency you want, stick with "Roman Catholicism in Foo". I suspect that some other criterion may be involved in this nomination. If so, please make it explicit. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:38, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Catholic Church naming conventions RfC

There is currently an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Catholic Church)#RfC: should this page be made a naming convention that may be of interest. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:00, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Judy Dempsey, "Victory Brings Risk of Conflict with Merkel's Allies," The New York Times, 27 September 2009.

[2] Christa Pongratz-Lippitt, "New political group will further loyalty to Rome," The Tablet, 5 Dec., 2009, 36.

[3] Editors, "Merkel Not Christian Enough," The Tablet, 30 January 2010, 34.

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