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Requested move 1 November 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: With due respect to all parties involved, it appears no consensus emerged from the discussion. The other "Catherine Blake" on the dab is the American judge, which argued has greater long term significance for WP:PTOPIC which was not explicitly or strongly countered. A side suggestion of moving Catherine Blake (disambiguation) → Katherine Blake (mirroring a RM from 2015 that did not gain consensus) received no reply. No qualms to re-open that discussion if circumstances between then and now have changed. If there are retargets involving titles with "K" in addition to moves, it was not addressed sufficiently here in this RM. If it's apparently undesirable to have variations of "Katherine Blake" redirect to the dab page with a "C"-starting title, consider a dab split if the names beginning with "K" demonstrate greater notability, or that names beginning with "K" are truly indistinguishable enough to deserve the split. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk) 23:54, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

– Analogous to Anne Hathaway (Shakespeare's wife). No personal notability to the extent required for WP:PRIMARY TOPIC. All mentions in Google Books, etc, are in relation to William Blake. A related nomination may be consulted at Talk:Catherine Blake (disambiguation)#Requested move 3 January 2015 —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:42, 1 November 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 03:21, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mild Oppose, Anne Hathaway had to have a qualifier after, well, Anne Hathaway became the primary. Here Catherine Blake seems the primary without need of a qualifier, and her work with Blake bears out her importance in their creative output. Randy Kryn 10:41, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that nearly two years ago, there was a proposal to move the disambiguation page redirect, Katharine Blake, so that it would become the dab page's main title header (there are two listings for Katharine Blake: Katharine Blake (actress) and Katharine Blake (singer)), thus obviating both the need of adding a qualifier to Catherine Blake as well as the need for maintaining a primary topic. The participants in the discussion, however, did not accept the proposal. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support there is no clear primary topic as far as I can see, so the disamb page should reside at Catherine Blake and William's Blake's wife should have a qualifier. MrStoofer (talk) 14:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The only other Catherine Blake (spelled that way) is the American judge, and I think William Blake's wife has greater long term significance for WP:PTOPIC. — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be noted that because both Katherine Blake and Katharine Blake redirect to Catherine Blake (disambiguation), Catherine Blake (William Blake's wife) is, in fact, the primary topic over five other names — the judge, the singer, the actress, the writer and the fictional character. With all due respect to Mrs. William Blake, who died nearly two hundred years ago, it does not appear that more Wikipedia users are searching for her than for all the other five combined. In fact, if instead of being named Catherine Blake (disambiguation), the dab page's main title header were to be moved to one of the redirects, Katherine Blake or Katharine Blake, there would be no need for adding a qualifier to Mrs. Blake or for keeping the qualifier "(disambiguation)" at the dab page. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 10:18, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.