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Request move / rename

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No move to Niagara Falls (New York) Public Library; no consensus to move to another name. Additionally, a move won't really solve the Google problem, as Niagara Falls Public Library would still redirect to the new name, at least until articles are created for the Ontario library and/or the New York city's new library (or system). Cúchullain t/c 21:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Niagara Falls Public LibraryNiagara Falls (New York) Public Library – Could this article be renamed to "Niagara Falls (New York) Public Library". Perhaps a disambig page at "Niagara Falls Public Library" and rename this article to "Niagara Falls (New York) Public Library", and redlink to "Niagara Falls (Ontario) Public Library" until such time as that page is created.

Google is merging the details of this entry with details about the Niagara Falls (Ontario) Public Library in their search results. They are two completely separate institutions in different countries.

Also, the image in this article (Ontario Southern Railway) came from Niagara Falls Ontario Public Library, not NFNY, it does not belong on this page. Cmd00 (talk) 18:19, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose; we are not responsible for Google's algorithms. Even if we were to create an article on the Ontario library (is there one?), the disambiguator for both articles should go at the end of the title. Powers T 20:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Google screwed up because the data in this article is wrong. I did not ask for a new page for the Ontario library, just a rename of this or a disambig to clarify that the U.S. is not the entire world. Yes there is one in Ontario (took 2 seconds to check, not to mention, I stated it in my note).
  • Oppose. We should not do massive page moves every time Google changes its search algorithms. Furthermore, no separate article on the Ontario library currently exists, so disambiguation is unnecessary at this time. Zzyzx11 (talk) 21:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • How is this "massive"?

I apologize for attempting to increase the precision of the data in Wikipedia so that others who rely upon it (e.g. google) are not misled. I will not attempt to do so again. I was hesitant to make a suggestion, not being part of the Wiki Cabal, and I've learned my lesson. Cmd00 (talk) 23:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you're going to react passive-aggressively every time someone disagrees with you, you're going to have a hard time contributing. There is no cabal. Powers T 23:47, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is probably all true but unhelpful IMO. May I point out that this contributor is a newcomer to Wikipedia? If we assume (as we tend to, particularly at RM) that every contributor is an old hand, then that will probably become true too. And Wikipedia will die with us. Andrewa (talk) 18:23, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree - I agree to the renaming proposal by User:Wbm1058.--Pubdog (talk) 01:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move

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I recently created the following two articles and one disambiguation page:

We need to move the disambiguation page to the plain title, necessitating a move of this article to a new title. Note that there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. The only suggestion for the new target from the previous discussion was Carnegie Library (Niagara Falls, New York), but that was rejected. I propose a move to Niagara Falls Carnegie Library (New York) (there is also one in Ontario which does not yet have an article), though I don't think it's optimal; I welcome better suggestions. Mindmatrix 19:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]