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The station listing shows Hyattsville at a junction with Anacostia Branch. I assume this refers to a railroad branch, and not the Northwest Branch of the Anacostia. If so, isn't this line actually the Alexandria Extension as described in the text? However, the article text places the junction with the Alexandria Extension in Riverdale. The difference, however, is probably just a few hundred feet. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've identified an error in the table. There's no junction at Riverdale. There is a wye at Hyattsville for the Alexandria Extension. Further south along this extension, in D.C., is Anacostia Junction. From what I have read, at this junction the Alexandria Ext. goes west over the Anacostia River, eventually crossing the Long Bridge over the Potomac. It appears that the Anacostia Branch begins at Anacostia Jct. and goes south to the old Naval Research Lab (Bellevue) and Blue Plains. (Also at Anacostia Jct. is the Landover Sub, a former PRR line, which runs to the northeast thru the former Benning Yard and connects to the Amtrak Northeast Corridor). Take a look at this discussion of Anacostia Jct and see if I got that right. Also this B&O Washington Branch photo tour. So the table needs some fixing, which I can do, once I verify the above description a bit more. Caseyjonz (talk) 04:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also looked in a street atlas, the wye junction actually forms part of the border between Hyattsville and Edmonston, but as two "legs" of the wye are in Hyattsville, I'd say that's where it is located. While Riverdale is only a few blocks away, it isn't the site of the junction. So, I've updated the article based on your explanation (and I checked out the web link - interesting stuff). ~~By the way, where exactly was the old Hyattsville station?~~ (never mind, figured it out) Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To create the new rail line template I referred to an official CSX timetable (2005), which labels the junction at the north leg of the wye as "Riverdale Park," at MP 32.7, while the Riverdale Park Station is 3/10 mi north at 32.4. The CSX terminology may be the source of the confusion. On the template I used the term "Riverdale Park Jct" for the wye. The south leg of the wye, at the old JD Tower site, is at MP 33.6. Someday I will do another section or article on the Alexandria Extension. Caseyjonz (talk) 18:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

B&O depots in Washington

I'm trying to straighten out the chronology of B&O passenger depots in D.C. The sources are pretty clear on the following:

1835-1852: 2nd Street and Pennsylvania Avenue NW.
1852: New station at New Jersey Avenue NW (Italianate design).
1907 (or 1908?): Union Station opened.

However, a few sources also mention another 19th c. depot, at 6th and Constitution Ave. How does that fit in the sequence? Caseyjonz (talk) 07:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind--that was the Baltimore and Potomac Railroad depot at 6th & Constitution. Caseyjonz (talk) 03:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Line map is incorrect on the northern end

The line map shows the split with the old main line as being northeast of the former Relay station, the St. Dennis station and the overcrossing of the Amtrak Northeast Corridor line. In fact, the actual split is just west of Relay, and just north of the Thomas Viaduct, as can easily be seen and identified on modern maps such as Google Maps or Open Street Maps. The Wikipedia articles on Relay, the Thomas Viaduct, and the Baltimore Terminal Subdivision also mention the split and place it in its proper location.

Based on the physical evidence, and on the information presented in the Baltimore Terminal Subdivision and Relay Wikipedia articles, I suspect that the Washington Subdivision actually ends at the junction with the Old Mainline subdivision near, or perhaps at, the location of the former Relay station. This means that stops shown northeast of Relay are actually on the Baltimore Terminal subdivision. It is possible, however, that the current formal subdivision split, as defined by CSX, is actually further north (and not at the original end of the Washington branch line), and that the stations shown are actually part of the Capitol Subdivision. Even if that is the case, the junction with the Old Mainline subdivision is still shown in the wrong location.

Additional research is needed to verify where the actual end of the Capitol Subdivision is located, but, at a minimum, the map should be corrected to place the junction with the Old Mainline subdivision in its proper location, even if the subdivision is still shown to continue further north from that point. If it is found that the junction is the northern terminus of the Capitol Subdivision, then all of the landmarks and stations northeast of the junction should be removed from the map (and the St. Denis station should be added to the Baltimore Terminal subdivision's map, which does show other landmarks along this segment as being part of that subdivision). 74.206.83.74 (talk) 12:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]