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On 21 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Canning, Liverpool to Georgian Quarter, Liverpool. The result of the discussion was moved.

Rodney Street

Rodney Street was laid out in 1783-4 by William Roscoe and named after Lord Rodney, who in 1782 secured a naval victory over the Comte de Grasse. It was developed piecemeal up to the 1820’s with houses for the affluent, escaping the old town centre. A few houses have 5 bays, with central doors, but most are 3 bays. They were erected in pairs or short runs by different developers which led to an inconsistent roof line (This can also be seen in the photograph of Catherine Street above) No. 9 was the birth place of Arthur Clough, poet born in 1819. No. 62 (built 1792-3) was the birthplace in 1808, of William Ewart Gladstone, Prime minister of England on four separate occasions through the 1860’s to the 1890’s). No.59 was home and studio to Edward Chambre Hardman (1898 - 1988), Photographer and is now owned by the National Trust and is open to the public. On the north side of Rodney Street stands the Scottish Presbyterian Church of St Andrew, built in 1823-4. The body of the church is of a simple two storey design with round arched windows and stuccoed walls designed by Daniel Stewart. The façade of blackened ashlar, designed by John Foster Jr., is an imposing composition of Ionic entrance columns, flanked by corner towers, topped with Corinthian columns and domes. The north tower has been demolished and the building is currently shrouded in scaffolding, awaiting a much needed restoration.

I removed the above and placed it here, as it is on the edge of Canning ... If anyone thinks it should be re-instated, please discuss below David Humphreys 13:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Hope Street, Liverpool and Rodney Street, Liverpool and Gambier Terrace The Rodney Street conservation area.--84.9.192.95 13:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rodney Street is actually outside the Canning Area which is why (after further investigation) I removed my own section about it. Despite the fact that Hope Street and Gambier Terrace are in the Rodney Street Conservation area, they are still both in Canning. See the map on the Liverpool City Council Websitethat shows the extent of the area known as Canning David Humphreys 13:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Canning

Opening a debate on Canning (from Falkner Square), despite Canning existing on WP Canning, there is no such district..it is a modern 'phrase' for want of a better word, representing a cluster of streets. Alternatively named the Georgian Quarter. I think the definition for Canning is based on it being a conservation zone, like that around Castle Street at the other end of the city. Also, you can say the same for Granby, in Toxteth. Or Breckfield, (based on Breckfield Road) in the cusp of Anfield and Everton. There are other examples but, Canning is a modern term by whom I dont know but it has found its way in to the Council phrasebook, still does not mean it is an area. It is on the edge of Liverpool city centre near Toxteth (and Edge Hill) a mixture of L1 AND L8 postcodes. Dmcm2008 (talk) 18:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/The_City/City_centre/index.asp--Kitchen Knife (talk) 19:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I lived there in the 1970s it tended to be called Abercrombie - as in Abercrombie Residents Action Group (ARAG).Danensis (talk) 12:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Turning the tide

I object to the phrase "The tide began to turn noticeably in the 1990s". I would say the tide began to turn in 1974 with the passing of the Housing Act, and the work of Don Simpson, Paul Harman and others. Danensis (talk) 12:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 21 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canning, Liverpool → Georgian Quarter, Liverpool – Georgian Quarter already redirects here and seems to be the more notable name for this neighbourhood. Most references to Canning refer to the electoral ward. The first reference on this article does not include the word Canning at all, instead uses Georgian Quarter. "The area's boundaries have been formalised by both Liverpool City Council and Merseyside Police" is misleading, the police have demarked an area for operational purposes and the council, when not talking about the electoral ward, use "The Canning Georgian Residential Quarter" in this reference. To expand this article would require using more references that refer only to Georgian Quarter and not Canning (example). There are Georgian Quarters in other cities (Dublin, Edinburgh, Limerick) so the full title is needed. Orange sticker (talk) 11:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the lead states: "an area on the eastern edge of Liverpool city centre, England, characterised by almost entirely residential Georgian architecture." yet the Location section describes the same boundaries of Canning (Liverpool ward) which includes many streets of modern development. If this move goes ahead the Location section will need revision. The boundaries set out in this reference seem to include only the areas of predominantly Georgian architecture. Orange sticker (talk) 15:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support overall. Most sources I can find today refer to the ward, so most on Canning here can be used for the ward article, with this being more Georgian Quarter. But there is an old website on Canning and a pictorial, so likely how this came about but the website's reliability has been disputed in the edit history and are no longer in use. Plus this 2012 old council document p.82 also using "Canning Georgian Quarter". But overall "Canning" alone has potentially fallen out of use now, therefore unlikely the common name anymore of the two, if they refer to the same "area". Dank Jae 21:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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