Talk:California Cantonese

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Chinese-Americans in the California Gold Rush

I don't want to knock the author of this entry too much, but its pretty obvious this was created as part of a class or assignment. It is very heavily sourced from a single journal article from J of American History, which was improperly cited in the article until I corrected it. I've only checked a few sentences, but at first glance it appears that the in-line citations are practically word-for-word from the source material.

Additionally, the article has grammatical mistakes and is missing key cross-references for various uncommon phrases and nomenclature about gold mining. I will attempt to make my way back and clean up this article in a week or two after I've done more reading on the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBlasioN (talk • contribs) 17:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were grammar mistakes, repetition of information, sentences hard to read; also template and citation mistakes, and i've worked on them today.

There was an error in this article's title: the Chinese adventurers who came weren't Chinese-Americans, only their descendants. I've changed the page name to reflect the content.

This was a good effort for a class assignment, but the purpose Wikipedia is to give the world perfected articles. Kudos to the student who started the page; this was a good foundation for something greater. Aearthrise (talk) 04:29, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: The History of Immigration in the United States

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 30 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Parkerplanet (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Tannerwilliamson (talk) 01:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misuse of reference book by Charlotte Brooks

The book by Charlotte Brooks, American Exodus: Second-Generation Chinese Americans in China, 1901–1949, was cited falsely. The citation names the pages 35 and 36 which describe Chinese-heritage people born in the US migrating to China to start new lives during the 1910s and 1920s. The book is not about Chinese settlers living in California. The text that was supposedly supported by this citation had nothing to do with what Brooks was saying. Binksternet (talk) 07:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't only about the early Chinese settlers (first starting in the Gold Rush), it is also about their descendants, known as the California Cantonese, and the contributions they've made to the state. Those "Chinese-heritage people born in the US" are descendants of those early miners, and they form a culture called California Cantonese, which is distinct from Cantonese in China.

Page 35 speaks about Louey Shuck, a native of Weaverville, California that in 1921 founded department stores in Hong Kong. ...his decision to relocate in Asia allowed his family to avoid social and economic limitations that Chinese faced both in Gold Rush country and in San Francisco.

Page 35 also describes a "Chinese American woman" (i.e. California Cantonese) from Los Angeles who said I feel restraints imposed by the Chinese traditions... I feel restrictions imposed upon girls; we are not permitted to go out to socials or to have good times as American girls have.

On page 36: Indeed, they discovered the younger Cantonese and overseas Chinese from other parts of the world often saw their "American" traits in a positive light

Lynne LeeShew, who founded a hospital in Guangzhou (Canton City) is described as a Chinese American (California Cantonese) from San Francisco I feel restraints imposed by the Chinese traditions... I feel restrictions imposed upon girls; we are not permitted to go out to socials or to have good times as American girls have.

Beyond that, you also deleted a separate citation that mentioned the migration of Hong Kong, Macau, and Guangzhou Cantonese people to Chinatowns in the USA between 1976-1995, which corroborated the sentence that recent Cantonese speakers come from Macau, Guangzhou, and Hong Kong in Modern China. Aearthrise (talk) 07:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a new source that mentions recent immigration from Cantonese speaking immigrants. Aearthrise (talk) 08:18, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]