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A fact from Butt Fumble appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 September 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the butt fumble, an infamous play in American football, was retired as an undefeated champion of SportsCenter's "Worst of the Worst" poll, having won a record-breaking 40 weeks in a row?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/September.

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Why this article exists

In case anyone is wondering, the butt fumble might not have passed Wikipedia:Notability (events) back in 2012, as it was the topic of only two or three news cycles: the days immediately following the event, and the interviews for the next weekend. However, August 2013 saw three separate news stories about the butt fumble, focusing on Sanchez's career, Moore's retirement, and the SportsCenter run. This provides plenty of material to write an encyclopedic article. Melchoir (talk) 20:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image?

I couldn't find any free images on Google or Flickr.

Of non-free images, the clearest image I could find is here. Unfortunately, the circumstances don't really fit the non-free image use rationales. Melchoir (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This page should not exist at all

This article is irelevant and should be deleted. It is not a newsworthy story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.192.67.251 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 22 November 2013‎

Thanks for the feedback! In the article, you can scroll down to the "References" section for a list of journalists who disagree. Melchoir (talk) 19:54, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be the singular champion of this dubious notability. Why don't we take it NOW to AfD and see if you can get traction from the community, what with a year's worth of it sticking around. --Mareklug ^talk 00:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

...A year ago, I let this discussion trail off because I didn't want to bait anyone into starting an unnecessary AfD. Well, someone did it anyway, and the AfD was closed with a resounding "keep". This result is a strong answer to any lingering concerns over notability and traction from the community. Melchoir (talk) 20:05, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was reading a new article on NFL.com, and the infamous "butt fumble game" was referenced. Wishing to know more, I searched, and as usual Wikipedia gave me the answer. Thanks, Wikipedia!76.103.116.3 (talk) 07:35, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proper noun

Per WP:AT, Butt fumble is in reference to a particular game, so I think I'll go ahead and move the page to The Butt Fumble. This is much like The Comeback (American football). If there is objection afterward please let me know! --Dekema2 (talk) 02:04, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for inviting discussion! I do wish to object. WP:AT recommends:

Avoid definite and indefinite articles: Do not place definite or indefinite articles (the, a, and an) at the beginning of titles unless they are part of a proper name (e.g. The Old Man and the Sea) or otherwise change the meaning (e.g. The Crown). They are noise words that needlessly lengthen article titles, and interfere with sorting and searching. For more guidance, see Naming conventions (definite and indefinite articles at beginning of name).

Fan names for football events aren't proper names, so the first exception doesn't apply. Sometimes, the definite article does change the meaning: examples include "The Catch", "The Drive" "The Fumble", "The Play", and as you observed, "The Comeback". Most of the time, though, the article isn't necessary: "Bluegrass Miracle", "Holy Roller", "Immaculate Reception", "Miracle at the Meadowlands", "Music City Miracle", and "Snow Bowl". Melchoir (talk) 02:30, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That makes a ton of sense, I'm not sure why I wasn't thinking about that. --Dekema2 (talk) 03:46, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, shall I move the article back, then? Melchoir (talk) 04:17, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

...done! Melchoir (talk) 05:22, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because obviously, it's a drive-by tagging. --Buffaboy ^talk 02:11, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Capitalization of "butt fumble"

Hi, wiki editors. Although this play was originally referred to in lowercase by editors, time has changed the "butt fumble" to the "Butt Fumble." This page should be updated to reflect the overwhelming majority of media outlets that refer to the play with capital letters. When discussing the concept of a "fumble" as it pertains to the NFL rules, it is correct to use it in the lowercase. However, this article refers to a now-famous play specifically, and it should therefore be "Butt Fumble."

This opinion is also held by ESPN ^[1], CBS Sports ^[2], New York Daily News ^[3], Newsday ^[4], even the official NFL.com page refers to it as a proper noun ^[5] - and the list goes on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.0.22.136 (talk) 18:36, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

Requested move 3 February 2021

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The result of the move request was: page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) —Nnadigoodluck███ 00:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Butt Fumble game → Butt Fumble – Reverting undiscussed move. The game is notable only for the single play, so the topic should be the play and not the game. O.N.R. ^(talk) 12:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom as well. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 16:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is a lie thru omission.

The “butt fumble” was 100% a consequence of Vince Wilfork “fork-lifting” Brandon Moores ass into Mark Sanchez face. Any description of the event not acknowledging that fact could only be written by bitt sore New Yorkers. This exposes all of Wikipedia as the fraud anymore with any appreciation of history understands. 2601:180:4100:99E5:6551:4822:37:3E77 (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/21401659/butt-fumble-oral-history-new-york-jets-nfl-king-bloopers-five-year-anniversary

[2] ttp://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/11/16/bears-mark-sanchez-impact-mentoring-role/

[3] ttp://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/defining-moment-ben-mcadoo-era-third-and-33-rams-article-1.3627038

[4] ttps://www.newsday.com/sports/media/francesa-wfan-replacements-chris-carlin-bart-scott-maggie-gray-1.14986398

[5] ttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000877794/article/skycam-to-offer-distinct-perspective-on-thursday-night-football

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