Talk:Bradford-on-Avon

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On 28 August 2005, it was proposed that this article be moved from Bradford-on-Avon to Bradford on Avon. The result of the discussion was Moved.

On 3 August 2018, it was proposed that this article be moved from Bradford on Avon to Bradford-on-Avon. The result of the discussion was Moved.

Requested move

The town's name does not have hyphens (See town council website for proof). However, un-hyphened version exsists as a re-direct. Tompw 12:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Philip Baird Shearer 19:24, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No Support I'm not convinced that the Town Council web site is correct. Convincing counter-proofs are that Ordnancy Survey uses hyphens, as does every physical road sign pointing to the place.
Please sign your comments with four tildes (the ~ symbol). Also, it's a bit late now. Tompw 19:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should have hyphens (the Ordnance Survey is good enough evidence), but to save the possibility of constant changes back and forth, I have simply made reference to the hyphenated spelling in the article's opening line. Carbonix 02:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request.

Bearfield

Until just now there was a redirect from Bearfield to Bradford on Avon, although no mention of the word "Bearfield" in the article. It was created in 2014 with the edit summary "Bearfield is the local name for part of the north-western side of Bradford-on-Avon, and is the name of an independent church in that part of this Wiltshire town." There is an entry for "Bearfield" in List of places in Wiltshire, but no mention of it in List of United Kingdom locations: Bea-Bem. I've created a new redirect from Bearfield, Wiltshire to Bradford on Avon, and used it in the "list of places in Wiltshire". If there should be a mention of "Bearfield" in this article, please add it. If the whole thing is fictional or non-notable, please remove the various mentions of it, and turn the new Bearfield dab page into a redirect to the American township. Thanks. PamD 08:38, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 3 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. No explicit opposition after a week of listing — Amakuru (talk) 15:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bradford on Avon → Bradford-on-Avon – This is the name of both the town and its CP. Britannica also has it at Bradford-on-Avon. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Government legislation uses the hyphens as do some of the sources in the article but the parish and county councils and local newspaper don't. I'm not sure if either of the names is more commonly used than the other. Peter James (talk) 22:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Hyphens or not?

The page was moved from "Bradford-on-Avon" to "Bradford on Avon" in 2005. It was moved back again in 2018 after a correct "Requested Move" discussion. The town's name in the text needs to match that in the title (except within quotes). Please don't change the text to disagree with the title. If you feel really strongly about it, set up another formal Requested Move and come with good arguments to support your case. PamD 14:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~I agree, the 2005 RM appeared to have a lack of consensus for move~~, I'm not sure if it is correct that the railway added hyphens incorrectly but it has been shown that third party sources such as OS and Britannica use hyphens (WP:UCN), so I think a new RM should indeed be made if we want to change it back. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC) OK I see that it was closed with 1 support but later 2 people said that it should have hyphens. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Railway station names do not have to match the names of the community. The use of hyphens in the station name does not change what the name of the Town is. Tompw (talk) 16:44, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable. If someone had come to the above RM with a reason not to hyphenate, we would have looked at it and decided whether it was legit. Since they didn't, they should come forth and provide such evidence in a new RM of they feel strongly about it. Edit warring the text is not the solution. — Amakuru (talk) 14:59, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The page is now semi-protected, which should calm things down for a while. PamD 16:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I'd known about the proposed move... the Town Council [1] uses no hyphens. The County uses no hyphens (see here), mostly (see here). The national government uses both (shown here). The Town Council tweeted the hyphens got added by the Post Office. Only the Ordnance Survey use hyphens (town, civil parish, which are essentially the same 'place') - but do people know whether this is meant to be the authority or reflect people's usage? I don't want to do a requsted move until I get a sense about all the pieces of evidence out there. Does anyone have any evidence either way they'd like to add? Tompw (talk) 16:44, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Tompw: I'd recommend filing a new RM, as there doesn't appear to be clear consensus on which title is the best. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:03, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I probably will. I'd like to give everyone a chance to weigh in with any evidence either way. I'll give it a week. 19:48, 5 October 2018 (UTC)