Talk:Boundary Range

Flood Glacier - disaster mgmt?

Upon looking at the satmap, and noting the name, it seems like the Flood Glacier is a repeat glacial lake outburst flood offender; there may be govt studies on it as a natural hazard, though other than the provincial park in the area and the old customs-house at Stikine/Boundary, it would seem to mostly dissipate by the time it got anywhere near Wrangell...unless there are settlers on the islands in the Stikine estuary. Just noting this, don't have time to research it. Mud Glacier seems to get its name from being fairly dirty, i.e. linear moraine, or maybe its terminal face is mucky....Skookum1 (talk) 13:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

thanks for nesting the WPs, Beeblebrox.....I just searched http://www.topoquest.com for "Alaska" + "Boundary" and this range didn't come up though curiously "Boundary Roadhouse" did in the same area, i.e. within BC, but maybe an old, old USGS survey from the days when this was part of the US boundary claim is the reason it's in USGS....bugt then if that was the case, then "Boundary Mountains" (the old name) should also be....you'd think, anyway....I looked it up on Basemap Online Store, which is an online map resource of the BC Govt - and it seems to be only the spur-range northeast of Kates Needle... if you'd like to have a look go to http://www.basemaps.gov.bc.ca/ and click the yellow "start" button, and in the new window that opens type in "Boundary Range" in the search window at the top; if you back out to about the 208,429:1 scale you'll see "the lay of the land" and the US boundary; at 104,215:1 you still can't see the range designation but Dominion and Cornice Mtns show up clearly - note "Dominion" is a reference to the Dominion of Canada, I'm reasonably certain - but I don't think they're in the Boundary Range, and I suspect the range-boundary is the col between the north fork of Stirling Creek to the creek that feeds Flood Lake...yeah, at 26,054:1 the name Boundary Range doesn't curve across that col, but avoids it; I'm used to seeing such markings on Basemap; if Dominion and Cornice were in the range they'd be labelled, and the range-name woudl go across the col or would otherwise be pretty clear. So, knowing you're from WP:Alaska, sorry to drag you here but I'm pretty certain this range is only in Canada/BC....I'll leave the template and the stub for now in case you'd like to kibbitz....I have the BC Gazetteer downloaded, it might have more detailed information in it than BCGNIS does, i.e. specifics of boundaries like there are in some USGS publs....the reason for the name is becoming clearer to me, also; the lcoation is ~60km (crowflight) from the sea and about 75 km via the river (the estuary was farther upstream 100 years ago due to siltation, also)....which falls in the range of "ten marine leagues from the sea", a land league is 3 miles, not sure about a marine league but it would be similar....this was the inland limit of the Russian claim, as explored by Lieutenant Pereleshin {see Talk:Pavel Pereleshin#Lieutenant Pereleshin) and would have been similarly claimed by the US, so in this area was the Russian/US version of where the boundary should be...I can't put that int he article as it would be WP:OR or WP:Synth but it makes sense to me historically...the Porcupine River, which faces these mountains, was also the scene of some skirmishing betweeen American and British//Canadian miners during the Alaska boundary dispute - that I have a NY Tiems archival article about; I wasn't sure whether it was this Porcupine River or a Porcupine Creek up by Skagway, which was another possibility; now I'd bet almost for sure it's this one...but I'm not a betting man. Damn, what fun I could have with tenure and funding to do historical research of this kind ....LOL. Anyway if ther'es any other Alaskan/US source that might have something to say about this range, do let me know....this could turn out to be an interesting article if we find enough material....Skookum1 (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)