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21/2/2013 - Ben previously described as "singer/songwriter and surfer". Seems incorrect to list him as a surfer without any specific professional activity as it is thus just a hobby (ie a singer who plays football for recreation would not be described as a "singer and footballer" but vinnie jones who has made a career in both football and acting would be described as a "footballer and actor".) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.219.10 (talk) 12:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Vote count might only be 2–1, but it's pretty obvious that the arguments supporting the move are much stronger. Jenks24 (talk) 13:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]



WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 60,000+ hits per month compared just a few hundred for the other Ben Howards. 82.132.229.118 (talk) 00:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - This is either Euro- or UK-centric; this guy has not made an American megahit yet. The stats alone could not make this guy very primary. How would a musical profession triumph other professions, like aviation and baseball? --George Ho (talk) 07:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • That is very biased. You are suggesting that he is not the primary topic because "he has not made an American megahit"?! Why do the stats alone "not make this guy very primary"? In addition to the stats being significantly higher there are also a significant number more incoming wikilinks. He's had songs that have charted in numerous countries and won significant awards. 9000 people visited Ben Howard (currently the dab page) in the last 30 days and judging by the stats 8000+ of those were looking for the musician (the aviator, poet and baseball player collectively had less than 1000) - why make it harder for them to find what they are looking for and why make it more difficult for editors by making them have to pipe the links? I'm not suggesting that he is the primary topic because he is a musician. All the evidence shows that he is the primary topic so I don't see why we should ignore the stats just because you DONTLIKEIT. 82.132.229.233 (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very clear primary topic. Last month, his 153,957 pageviews made him over 185 times more popular than all other topics combined. (There was a spike last month, but even using January's stats, we're talking 72 times more popular.) To my knowledge there is no policy stating that a musician needs a hit single in the US to meet regular primary topic guidelines. --BDD (talk) 17:29, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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