Talk:Bayesian

This article was nominated for deletion on 10 January 2018. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Talk[edit]

"A Bayesian is one who, vaguely expecting a horse, and catching a glimpse of a donkey, strongly believes he has seen a mule." (attributed to Karl Pearson)

Cleanup[edit]

This dab is a mess, suggest in this order:

Redirect to existing primarytopic/dabconcept (maybe Bayesian statistics or Bayesian probability?)
cleanup putting WP:PTM in See also
WP:Dabconcept (maybe odd for an adjective) Widefox; talk 19:38, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like we're choosing 3. so stubbed. Widefox; talk 00:10, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page's title fails wp:noun. Specifically, the "Use Nouns" paragraph describes what to do with an adjective page title like this one. It should be a disambiguation only. Tayste (edits) 03:06, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal Feb 2018[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that Bayesian (a disambiguation page) be merged into List of things named after Thomas Bayes (a list article). Since List of things named after Thomas Bayes contains all the terms listed in Bayesian, the practical effect of the merge would be to redirect Bayesian (and Bayesian (disambiguation), Bayesians and Bayseian) to List of things named after Thomas Bayes. See the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bayesian which was closed as no consensus pending Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Disambiguation of adjectives which has dried-up. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The couple of entries that are not simple partial title matches could be a separate legitimate disambiguation page, but the list article as primary would make it moot. -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:17, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support- although I said "redirect" at the AfD because it wasn't clear to me what content over there would be useful here. Reyk _YO! 14:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No opinion, but if a merge is performed, then the resulting article should incorporate the dab page's organisation, which displays more prominently the things that are likely to be what a reader is looking for when they search for "Bayesian". – Uanfala (talk) 14:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. No reason for both. Concision of entries with redirects is a practical proposal. Kierzek (talk) 14:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question. Would merging allow preserving the information contained in the lead paragraph of the Bayesian page? The meaning of the adjective "Bayesian" is more specific than generically referring to anything related to the Reverend. Consider a neophyte Wikipedia user wishing to understand the meaning of, say, "Bayesian forecasting" – a term in use on which we have no article. Just having this long dry list of all things named after Thomas Bayes we have articles on will not be very helpful. The specific mentioning of Bayesian inference as a key Bayesian concept will help to put this user on the right trail. --Lambiam 16:00, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, a good lede is a trait of a featured list. And this one has chances to become one, because it is a highly non-random (sorry for accidental pun) list. And the root of all things Bayesian is Bayes' theorem, on which the Bayes' approach to statistical data analysis is based. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support, obviously. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This makes sense to me. Tayste (edits) 20:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support I can only repeat what I said at AfD: "Redirect to List of things named after Thomas Bayes. I've checked both articles, and Bayesian duplicates everything in 'List of things..' though the latter contains additional article names not in 'Bayesian'. No justification in two identical articles, but the Redirect itself will serve a useful purpose." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Moyes (talk • contribs)
Support After thinking it over, I believe the merge would work. I like the lede of Bayesian more than the introductory sentence of List of things named after Thomas Bayes. XOR'easter (talk) 15:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the challenge of making a featured list of it is appealing, and I would be glad to help bring the page in that direction. XOR'easter (talk) 15:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Shhhnotsoloud: This looks like a consensus. Would you like to do the honours? Tayste (edits) 00:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I will, but I’m travelling just now with only an iPad: give me a couple of days. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:25, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.