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Crest

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The newest club magazine details the evolution of the FC Bayern club logo, which prompted me to compare to the corresponding section on this site. It turns out that the logo evolution given here does not seem to be correct. I don't know where the attributed dates come from, but the source given is not it. If I remember correctly I started the crest section of the article and gave Die Bayern by Schulze-Marmeling as a reference. At that point it was more of a general outline of the logo evolution without pictures. 'Die Bayern' does not provide such a detailed overview anyway so the source given is not a source for the logos displayed.

Specifically the logo given for 1906-19 seems to have been in use from 1920 to 1924 and the various logo for 1954 to 1970 have never been official club logos. Maybe I should take another picture, but on the cut-off site from the club magazine there is a club magazine from 1954 on display that they describe as being the first to feature the then new logo. On the next page there are also two pictures of Bayern crests that players for the club would earn if they played a lot for the club. These crests would then be applied to their jerseys. The thing is, these crests look almost exactly like the club logos attributed to 1961-65 and 1965-70, so this is probably just wrong here.

I have no clue where the 1954-61 logo comes from, but it does not seem to have been an official logo at any point either.

Edit: The logo with the golden tone doesn't seem to have been official at any point either.

The golden version was put in 1969, after their first win of the double on comemorative beer glasses, etc., but was not official logo. Oalexander (talk) 04:21, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OdinFK (talk) 10:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In History_of_FC_Bayern_Munich there is also a picture from 1966 where you can see the logo on a player's breast. It already pretty much looks like the modern logo and the Bavarian colors are aligned slightly tilted not just horizontally, which is also in contrast to the logos as displayed currently on the page. OdinFK (talk) 10:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Posting a photo of the magazine here is a copyright violation. Please take it down and do not post any additional photos of the work.
Are you asking something specific about the 1954–61 logo or would you like to see something else happen? Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:32, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Somehow I thought using pictures of excerpts was okay, but anyway thanks for telling me. I've contacted them to have it taken down.
I don't have specific questions, but naturally I wonder if we could have the correct logo online. OdinFK (talk) 18:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note, that Bayern did not use a logo, in this case the flag one, before 1901. In 1966 Bayern used as shirt badge an "honorary sign" from before 1925 (back then used for pins). Shirt badges can be different from logos, as can be seen prominently with the German national side, which does not carry the association logo on their chests. The green Logo was introduced when Bayern joined up with Jahn in 1919.

This Logo (http://www.dfs-wappen.de/media/verein/ger/bayern/muenchen/dfs_wl_d_muenchen_bayern[1901_1906].gif) has a strong enough resemblance to the one used from ca. 1902-06, and that one (http://www.dfs-wappen.de/media/verein/ger/bayern/muenchen/dfs_wl_d_muenchen_bayern_msc_fa[1906_1909].gif) was used during their union with Münchner SC (ca 1906-19), therefore the "S" in it. (Links have to be copied and pasted, because they hav square brackets in them)

What Marmeling is concerned, as much as I remember, he co-operates with the guys from DWS-Wappen; they however, as is apparent, can only draw, but have not much clue about history. They even carried for a long time the 1925-54 logo in blue (!!! - see version history here). Most Bayern logos have apparently been uploaded from DWS and have their generally misleading names. BTW, I proposed changes along these lines already around 22 December 2017. Oalexander (talk) 04:07, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Historic Kits

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At a cursory glance the kits as presented per today were incorrect for 1968/69 and 1972/73. The standard home-kit for 1968/69 can be seen here (scroll down). Easily recognizable the old stadium and players like Mucki Brenninger (left) and Werner Olk Between Bulle Roth (with the trophy) and Schwarzenbeck (to his right Gerd Müller). In the cup final Bayern played in all-red (as can be gleaned from here). The standard home-kit from 1972/73 can be seen here. I personally do not have the skills to make the appropriate changes. Cheers, Oalexander (talk) 01:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 February 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No Consensus Current name and proposed names are clearly covered in the article and dealt with ample redirects so readers are not being shorted here. Additionally, the current title is consistent with sports naming conventions and there are almost another dozen collateral articles using the current title convention re: FC Bayern Munich. Mike Cline (talk) 12:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


FC Bayern MunichBayern Munich – "FC Bayern Munich" is neither the WP:COMMONNAME, which is "Bayern Munich", nor the official English name which is "FC Bayern München". As such, I propose moving this article to "Bayern Munich" as it best meets WP:CRITERIA and WP:NCST does not apply as there is ambiguity as to the official spelling of a club's name in English, although if there is a consensus against that I would support "FC Bayern München" as an improvement over the current title. BilledMammal (talk) 07:12, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support I think in general it makes sense to have sports teams at their full official names (the common name for the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox is arguably just Yankees and Red Sox, for example). But in this case, as the nomination notes, we are already not using the official name of the subject. And from the cited stats, and from a scan of multiple prominent English language publications, the proposed title does seem to meet our WP:COMMONNAME requirements.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:37, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changing from weak support to support. Discussions below seem to indicate that both FC Bayern Munich and FC Bayern München are used in official English-language contexts, but neither the oppose nor support !votes seem to disagree that the proposed title is the common name in English language use. And my Yankees and Red Sox comparison doesn't really work here -- while coverage of those teams commonly at least introduces them with the city included, English language coverage here most commonly just uses Bayern Munich without putting FC first.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's not our naming policy though -- we use the common name in reliable English language sources, not the longest one used sparingly. It would be one thing if articles overwhelmingly introduced the club with a long name and then used a short one after, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm not sure I buy the idea that, say the New York Times or the BBC feel they need to use "Bayern Munich" because adding two letters would make it ridiculous.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:40, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 09:04, 23 June 2006‎ SndrAndrss talk contribs block‎  30 bytes +30‎  moved Bayern Munich to FC Bayern Munich

which was followed by a series of apparently bold moves. Hopefully this RM will lead to stability whichever way it goes. Andrewa (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Good article reassessment

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Hello page watchers. I'm going through the good article cleanup listing to reassess old GAs. This article is in need of a lick of paint to maintain its GA status,

  • See the various tags in the main article.
  • Much of the 'other departments' is in tiny sections and unsourced.
  • There is disproportionate attention to later years in the history.

Anybody here wants to pick it up? If not, I'll likely nominate for a WP:good article reassessment in a couple of weeks. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas tuchal

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he was sacked 110.142.185.173 (talk) 11:35, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2024

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Changers556 (talk) 23:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to change the head coach from Thomas Tuchel to Vacant with a citation from Fc Bayern’s website. I would like to do this in order to provide accurate information.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 23:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]