Talk:Battle of Sderot

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Militant vs terrorist

The word militant is inappropriate for these individuals.

While militancy may have motivated their actions as actors they are terrorists, or if you prefer militant terrorists. But terrorists nonetheless. The purpose of these acts is not militancy but to terrorize. It is not to accomplish Hamas’ stated purpose, the death of all Jews, and the end of the State of Israel. The purpose of these acts was only to terrorize, to provoke Israel, and then use the death of their own people that they would hide behind as propaganda.

The climate protesters who superglued themselves at the US Open were militants but not terrorists. Their act might have enraged many because it delayed the tennis but no one was fearful, in terror, as a result.

Calling them militants minimizes their acts of terror to a more acceptable level. This is whitewashing horror at its worst and continues a banality of evil.

The proper word for these individuals is terrorist and not militant. Ideal18 (talk) 10:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We rely on what reliable sources say. See WP:TERRORIST. Eg the BBC is using "militant" and resisting the government's pressure to use "terrorist". Interesting as it's Director General is a Tory and until this year it's Chair. Doug Weller talk 10:26, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Inconclusive"?

What exactly about the battle is "inconclusive"? IDF drove Hamas out of the town after 2 days, and it has been fully under Israeli control since then. Wordbearer88 (talk) 07:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

9 days late, I only left it that way since there was an absence of citations to indicate wether it was over or ongoing, it has been since changed The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 09:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The battle result should be either "Israeli victory" or "Israel retains control of Sderot". Wordbearer88 (talk) 07:32, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Killing old travellers

The terrorists murdered a group of elderly travelers who got off a minibus following alarms of hanas rockets https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rksj599zt 2.55.186.255 (talk) 16:46, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Change typo in the info box "Incnclusive" to "Inconclusive" G'year

If that is up to date, anyway G'year

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Change Red Color alarm to Red Alert. (In English, Israelis do not call it Red Color. That is a direct translation, but not commonly used.) Rehovot (talk) 07:50, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: Changed term to "siren" to match the source for the section. —Sirdog (talk) 05:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Verification needed

The death toll, for instance, is linked to a single source with no detail. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems arbitrary. It's not as if either Israel or Hamas had a special division deployed to Sderot. There's practically little difference between Hamas attack on Sderot vs elsewhere in southern Israel.

Another issue is the use of loaded terms and pov language. VR _talk 01:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Vice regent, I agree that the article seems "arbitary." What do you think of the prospects of merging this article (and some others like Battle of Sufa, Battle of Re'im, that seem even more arbitrary) into 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel ? Regards, SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 05:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what are the "loaded terms" you'd like to see modified? Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 22:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No response, I am removing the tag Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 17:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sderot police station image

Why is there so much water around the Sderot police station in the image? Anyone know? Bajaria (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]