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Taruisa and Thrace

Wilusiya is commonly identified with Ilion, but, perhaps, Taruisa is not Troas but Thrace.

Troas seems more likely due to the fact that Thrace was not pronounced with a sibilant. Khepidjemwa'atnefru

Propose renaming page "Assuwa league"

More descriptive name. Categorystuff (talk) 18:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Were the people of Wilusa early Phrygians like Euripides claimed?

Or is that anachronistic? Or is the answer even known? -Tawaki (talk) 18:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not really sure what's going on here

Botterweg, Permanentaccounts wrote that the below section is pending your response.

Permanentaccounts, talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article; you usually want to use a user sandbox or draftspace for drafting, then follow the WP:CWW procedures when they're fit to be copied over into the article proper. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 06:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

removed per comment

--Permanentaccounts (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: what was originally below is at User:Permanentaccounts/sandbox. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 07:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Pasuhalta (region) into Assuwa

No actual content beyond the fact that the location is unknown, the given etymology is speculation as Pasuhalta is not mentioned in that source. A WP:BEFORE only shows more sources (e.g. Hittite Landscape and Geography, p. 265) that confirm that we don't know anything, including about its geography, as it has only been mentioned in a single fragment with no additional context. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:41, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has appeared as a red link at [[Ancient regions of Anatolia] for years hence the separate article. The relevance is the Hittite source (a language w/ Indo-Iranian origins) and the source of the root. Mayrhofer was doing a treatise on language, not geography. You are correct - the place name is only mentioned in one document. See Cyrus the Great article for precedent. Permanentaccounts (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We can't guess the etymology of a place name just because a part of the word appears to correspond to a Hittite root (it is not even clear whether the place name is itself Hittite in origin). Etymologies are often debated, as multiple derivations from the same language can lead to similar names.

Not clear what specific precedent at Cyrus the Great you are pointing to (I'm guessing not Cyrus himself, as he is well-attested from a multitude of documents). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice put on source page Ancient regions of Anatolia --Permanentaccounts (talk) 22:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The notice is misleading, I haven't proposed merging either Ancient regions of Anatolia itself or "many of the regions" here, only Pasuhalta as there is virtually no sourcing on it. Also, please do not remove other users' comments. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]