Talk:Asia Cup

Asia Cup also relates to Hockey

Asia Cup does not necessarily relates to Cricket because Asia Cup is also there in another sport Hockey. The description provided is not neutral as well as incomplete.

--Sambitshovan (talk) 06:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The description of the article does not seem to be neutral. In the 1990-91 Asia Cup section it is stated that "Pakistan had pulled out of the tournament which helped India retain its hold on the Cup". This point does not seem to be clear since Pakistan had not won any of the previous Tournaments. It appears to be more of a biased view. Kppethe (talk) 16:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

References

• [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambitshovan (talk • contribs) 06:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Kppethe it was clearly written by a Pakistani. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.102.177 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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Stop reverting

Stop reverting, Sri Lanka and India may both have four titles but Sri Lanka has more second places while India has not even competed in one tournament. Obviously the most successful is Sri Lanka so stop reverting.--Blackknight12 (talk) 20:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia documents "verifiable" facts, there is NO space your opinions or analytical skills. I have no problem as long as you provide a source claiming SLK to be the most successfully nation, otherwise please do not expect the rest of us to rely on your patriotically shaded intelligence. Saroshp (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Why would I edit wikipedia based on my opinons, I am an experienced editor and I have never done that. It is very clear that when you look at the result summary on the page that Sri Lanka is the most successful, even though India might have the same number of titles, Sri Lanka has won more second places. Here is a source, Sri Lanka has also won more matches than any one else. However looking at other cricket tournament articles it does not be so specific therefore I will leave this be.--Blackknight12 (talk) 00:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Please explain what makes sir lanka the most successful nation

Before undo-ing any further, please elaborate on how sri lanka is most successful nation at the Asia Cup. If the number of wins is the criteria then both India and srilanka have won the cup 4 times. I am mostly certainly looking forward to seeing your source for this claim and hope that its not your not your personal opinion.

Falling which I strongly recommend that you please reconsider your claims in light of the Wiki posting rules.

Thanx. 69.120.197.58 (talk) 22:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 22 February 2016

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Asia Cup → Asia Cup (cricket) – there is a disambig page for Asia Cup, the title is again a disamiguation Vin09 (talk) 10:17, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

• Rename per nom, and also move Asia Cup (disambiguation) to Asia Cup. No clear primary topic. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support as this is not the primary topic- all are valid search terms, and I'd personally think AFC Asian Cup would more likely be the primary topic. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
• Comment. It would be good to have some hard figures (pageviews, television audience, etc.) about the cricket tournament vs. the basketball/hockey/moot competitions, rather than just going by gut feeling. Just because the others are "valid search terms" doesn't mean the cricket tournament – at its current title for 12 years – isn't the primary topic. IgnorantArmies (talk) 04:00, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• Here are the pageview stats for October 2015 to February 2016. Based on those, and the relative popularity of the three sports, I would maintain that the cricket tournament is the primary topic and thus oppose the move. IgnorantArmies (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• Support ACC Asia Cup would be the WP:NATURALDAB title, and the proposed title should both either be used as the name of the article or exist as a redirect -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 04:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• Comment Actually no there is already a tournament called ACC Trophy which is competed amongst non-test nations, thus oppose this move. - LionsRule125 (talk) 07:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
  • The logo used on this article shows "ACC Asia Cup", and the other article is not called "Asia Cup", it is called "Trophy" -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

• Support per nom, and also move Asia Cup (disambiguation) to Asia Cup. No primary topic. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support yes it is a good idea to distinguish cricket from other sports, also it would be a good to merge the Asian Test Championship into this - LionsRule125 (talk) 01:58, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Support at the moment, there is no doubt that the cricket competition is the primary topic, but that is because it is happening at the moment. Looking back a few months, the football tournament get almost twice as many hits as the cricket page. No clear primary topic. Harrias ^talk 08:52, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose per IgnorantArmies. Dee03 09:35, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. No shred of evidence has been presented (that I can see) to suggest that this is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Asia Cup", whereas IgnorantArmies has at least cited some page views to back up the status quo. Now the football tournament is actually called the Asian Cup rather than the Asia Cup, so I think from WP:SMALLDETAILS, that we don't need to consider that a contender for this name (although a hatnote might be in order on both pages, to distinguish the two usages). As for the other uses of "Asia Cup", in basketball, hockey, and women's cricket, let's bear in mind that for the three countries on the Indian subcontinent, cricket is by far the most popular sport, and the Asia Cup is for them a much bigger deal than similar tournaments in other sports. This is the primary topic here. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 15:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
• Support, although I prefer a move to ACC Asia Cup for natural disambiguation. Amakuru: Harrias noted that the cricket competition appears to be the primary topic because it is happening at the moment. Looking at a month in the last year when neither the cricket or football cups were running (October 2015), the football cup had 14,127 views and the cricket cup 8,397. The figures for November 2015 are similar (14,417 for the football, 6,476 for the cricket]). This trend continued in December, and it was only in January 2015 that the cricket cup overtook it. It's a shame stats aren't available for January 2015 when the football cup was last played. Number 57 17:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

  @Number 57: that's fair enough, but bear in mind here that the football competition is called "Asian Cup" while the cricket one is "Asia Cup", thus comparing simple page views doesn't tell you too much. I think this is a good enough case of WP:SMALLDETAILS myself. A simple Google search for results between 2000 and 2014: [2] shows mostly cricket articles in the top results, suggesting the football tournament is not often erroneously called "Asia Cup". The same search for "Asian Cup" reveals mostly football results: [3]. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

  @Amakuru: With regards to small details, I would expect most web outlets to get the name right. The question is do normal people get the name right? I looked on a well-known English language international football forum, and found over 700 references to "Asia Cup", compared to just over 2,000 for Asian Cup, which suggests that the general public get the name wrong over 25% of the time. If the move does succeed, it would be interesting to see if there was a way in which we could track which target page people are going to from the DAB page, and then review the move at a future date. Number 57 10:01, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

  @Number 57: quite a few of the results on your Big Soccer Forum search are actually for the "East Asia Cup" which is a different thing presumably. When I tried "asia cup" -"east asia cup" to eliminate those, I got a grand total of 98 results, compared with 2,040 results for the same search with "asian cup". Not quite 25%...  — Amakuru (talk) 13:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

  @Amakuru: Well spotted. Number 57 13:43, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose. The statistics continue to show that of the topics called "Asia Cup" (not "Asian Cup", etc.), this one has many times the page views of all other potentially ambiguous topics combined; it receives an unambiguous 97% of the page views. Even throwing in AFC Asian Cup (which again, isn't called the "Asia Cup"), the cricket cup still gets 88% the page views of all other topics combined.[4]--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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Merger proposal (2016)

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Not merged. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 19:52, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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I propose that Asian Test Championship be merged into Asia Cup. I think that the content in the Asian Test Championship article can easily be explained in the context of Asia Cup, and the Asia Cup article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Asian Test Championship will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. - LionsRule125 (talk) 02:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

This is an open discussion. Feel free to discuss the issues below:

• Reason: I see lack of reason for a separate page for the Asian Test Championship now as we have ODI and T20 Cup information in the same page. I also think that the Asian Test Championship should be a section in Asia Cup page rather than having its own page - LionsRule125 (talk) 02:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Comment @LionsRule125: please add the merge tags to both articles and add it to the WP:PM listing (instructions are found at WP:PM) -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 06:09, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. The Asian Test Championship and Asia Cup are completely different tournaments, the only connection between the two is that they are both organised by the ACC. IgnorantArmies (talk) 08:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose Totally different tournaments, per IA's comment, above. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:34, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose As above, they are different competitions. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree entirely with IA above. Jack | ^{talk page} 08:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose, per IgnorantArmies. Different competitions. Harrias ^talk 08:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose, per both are different.--Vin09 (talk) 17:19, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
• Comment Ok - if those two are two are two different tournaments then why is the T20 and ODI in the page? they are also a two different events but put in the same page. Also the test championship is an event that is no longer been played and the page has a small amount of information that can be fitted into the Asia Cup page and expand it - LionsRule125 (talk) 22:30, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

It changes format from year to year to fit in with the ICC's scheduled of the World and T20 cups. The article is more a container/summary page that links to the main competition tournaments. It's really only a three paragraph overview/lead with sub-sections for each tournament. The tables on the page make it clear which tournament/stats are which. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2018

The Results Table has title "ODI Results" change it to "ODI/T20 Results" since it is not a corned table showing 2016 T20 as well Uniqueads (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done Danski454 (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2018 (UTC)