Talk:Arthur Lewis Hall

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A fact from Arthur Lewis Hall appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that from 1904 to 1911 Arthur Lewis Hall covered 17,479 miles (28,130 km), mostly on foot, to map the geology of the Transvaal?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur Lewis Hall.

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Nice work!, I have marked it as reviewed. cheers!

Dcotos (talk) 18:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Chaiten1 (talk) Chaiten1 (talk) 18:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 15:23, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that from 1904 to 1911 Arthur Lewis Hall covered 17,479 miles (28,130 km), mostly by foot, to map the geology of the Transvaal? Source: https://journals.co.za/doi/epdf/10.10520/AJA10120750_2088
- ALT1: ... that between 1904 and 1911 Arthur Lewis Hall mapped the geology across 16,388 square miles (42,440 km²) of the Transvaal, South Africa? Source: https://journals.co.za/doi/epdf/10.10520/AJA10120750_2088
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/August Palmisano

Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Arthur Lewis Hall; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 21:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ktin (talk)Thank you so much for the very helpful comments. I have implemented the suggestions to the text. Very happy with the suggestions to round the numbers quoted in the hook.Chaiten1 (talk)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria for newness. Is long enough and no issues with neutrality / tone. Article is well-sourced to seemingly reputable journals. No issues there. I am assuming good faith on some of those, particularly ones that I can not access. Hooks are interesting and are well sourced. Was able to access the text. Have a few notes that I have included re: the hooks. Please see. QPQ done. Earwig shows no issues. Nice and clean article. Ktin (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notes Below:

Hooks:

Both hooks are interesting. Is there merit in rounding the numbers e.g. covered ~17,500 miles (~28,000 kms)?
Can we add South Africa in the hook so folks who do not know the region know that we are talking about a province in SA?

Lede:

Can we clarify / qualify what BIC was? i.e. in a phrase or two saying what BIC was and where it is.
If the above is done you can separate the Royal society part into the next sentence

Body:

In writing biographies, I have seen the sections -- Early life, Career (or alternately Works), and Personal life, be used. If you'd prefer the content can be reorganized that way
Early life
- Please can we add the date of birth in this section as well.
- Who was Philip Lake? e.g. British geologist
- Similarly, who was W.J. Lewis? e.g. South African explorer
Career
- I like the way you had conversions in the hook between miles and kms, consider the same in the article too. The numbers can remain precise here or rounded up / down based on your preference
- Awards can be a sub-section under career or can be the last paragraph within career section
Selected publications
- Can you add ISBN numbers to the books, if available
Personal life
- Please add a line or two about death. The details are available in the first link

Overall, a very nice and neat article. Well done. Please address as you deem fit. Ktin (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chaiten1: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chaiten1: has not addressed the concerns above, so I am marking this for closure as unsuccessful. If Chaiten1 does not edit this soon, it should be formally rejected. Z1720 (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have implemented all of these suggestions, as far as possible. I have rearranged the content of the article, and extended or clarified sections. Books or monographs from the 1920s - 1930s don't have ISBN numbers, but the citations are complete.Chaiten1 (talk)

. Approving both hooks. Preference is for ALT0. If needed, please feel free to round-up / round-down the miles. Ktin (talk) 01:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]