Talk:Arson damage during the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Arson damage during the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Frequently asked questions Q1: Does it have to say "white" police officer?
A1: Yes, because almost all reliable sources emphasize the significance of this fact. Q2: I read some information on the web that isn't in this article!
A2: When proposing anything to be added to the article you need to cite a reliable source; secondary sources are generally preferred over primary. Q3: This article is biased (for/against), or (whitewashes/blames), (Floyd/police)!
A3: See our neutral point of view policy. Complaints of bias must be accompanied by specific concerns or suggestions for change. Vague, general statements don't help. Q4: Why is this article calling it a murder instead of a death/killing?
A4: As a person was formally convicted for murder in a court of law, the article uses the term "murder", in line with the community guidance at WP:MURDERS. Q5: Wasn't Floyd killed near a store called Cub Foods, not Cup Foods?
A5: The store is Cup Foods, and is not affiliated with the Cub Foods store chain. Q6: Why does the article use such a graphic photo? Isn't it in poor taste?
A6: The lead image was determined by the community in a formal Request for Comment process. The RfC reached an "overwhelming consensus" that "...the image, despite it being traumatizing, should be kept per WP:NOTCENSORED, as it is an appropriate representation of the topic." Q7: Why was my request or comment removed?
A7: Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to describe Floyd's murder using other terms (e.g. "death", "overdose") or to change the name of the article accordingly will be removed without consideration, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines and essays, including WP:Requested moves, WP:Common name, WP:Article titles, WP:Naming conventions (violence and deaths), and WP:Reliable sources. Anyone removing such requests should include a link to this FAQ in their edit summary. Q8: Why do we not call the protests riots?
A8: Because most reliable sources call them protests, not riots. Q9: Did he not die of a drug overdose?
A9: No, whilst fentanyl was a contributory factor, his death certificate lists his cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression". |
While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard. |
This article is rated List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Number of days of the riots
[edit]May 27-30 is four days, not three. 27, 28, 29, 30. Four. Someone fix Wikipedia's idiotic A.I. 47.12.161.150 (talk) 00:48, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia template rendered the number of days. I made an edit to remove the template. Fires occurred May 27, 28, 29, and 30. The last day, the 30th, fires burned into the overnight hours from May 29 into May 30. According to sources, no fires were set the night of May 30. Minnemeeples (talk) 00:53, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
{{subst:requested move|2020 Minneapolis–Saint Paul riots|
The reason why I want to move this page is because this current article isn't even a list. There's already a list of arson damage in the George Floyd protests article and a few others. I feel like we need an article about this specific incident as it's rarely talked about in a few pages. SpringField23402 (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 22 May 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. Proposer withdrew their request by deleting the discussion. I'm bringing it back here. (non-admin closure) TheSavageNorwegian 14:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Arson damage during the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul → 2020 Minneapolis–Saint Paul riots – The reason why I want to move this page is because this article about arson damage is already shown in other pages related to this, like the George Floyd protests and United States racial unrest. But there isn't a page talking about the three days of rioting in Minneapolis that happened in late May 2020, and I think there should be one. SpringField23402 (talk) 04:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- This article's shortcomings notwithstanding, the first line of George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul reads: "Local protests over the murder of George Floyd, sometimes called the Minneapolis riots or Minneapolis uprising, began on May 26, 2020"
- Point being, if any article is going to be called 2020 twin cities riots, it's the main page, not this list of damaged buildings. Unless you would like to, item-by-item, determine which events during that period were protests and which were riots. This is a contentious topic, and I think we're starting on the wrong foot having two competing articles, one for protests and one for riots. That seems like editorializing to me? The current page title is descriptive, and limited in scope. Is it perfect? No, but this I don't think this change would improve matters. Perhaps make a draft article that's along the lines you're looking for and submit it for review? TheSavageNorwegian 15:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- A riot is not a protest. In fact, the plan for this article is to explain what happened during that period of the unrest, but what concerns me is that this current article doesn't make much sense about the arson damage. It's already talked about in the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul article and a few others. That's why I want to move this page. It could be about the term some media pages use. SpringField23402 (talk) 21:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 00:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- List-Class Black Lives Matter articles
- Low-importance Black Lives Matter articles
- List-Class Crime-related articles
- Low-importance Crime-related articles
- WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography articles
- List-Class Disaster management articles
- Low-importance Disaster management articles
- List-Class Law enforcement articles
- Low-importance Law enforcement articles
- WikiProject Law Enforcement articles
- List-Class List articles
- Low-importance List articles
- WikiProject Lists articles
- List-Class Minnesota articles
- Low-importance Minnesota articles
- List-Class United States articles
- Low-importance United States articles
- List-Class United States articles of Low-importance
- List-Class United States History articles
- Low-importance United States History articles
- WikiProject United States History articles
- WikiProject United States articles