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On 20 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Indoor gridiron football. The result of the discussion was moved to Arena football.

Disambiguation page

This page should be a disambiguation as 'Indoor Football' means a totally different sport in England/Scotland/Wales/Ireland as it does in the US. Lenzar 23:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there are different meanings, but I disagree with your edit. The article has links to other meanings. Right below the title 'Indoor Football' is a sentences that states the following: This article discusses indoor variations of American football; for indoor versions of association football (soccer), see futsal and indoor soccer. Many names/phrases/articles can mean more than one thing. Should we edit every page that has multiple meanings? Personally, I do not think so, which is why I do not agree with your change. LightningOffense 23:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a disambiguation link at the top of the page for people looking for indoor soccer. Every association listed on the page for Indoor soccer refers to itself as an Indoor soccer league. That would seem to indicate to me that most people looking for information would be looking for Indoor soccer. Those that come here by mistake can easily find it. --Onorem 23:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And why should what the US call 'Indoor Football' get priority? You don't own Wiki... Lenzar 10:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No less so than the U.K. But again, the indoor soccer page even states that indoor assn. football is primarily played in the U.S., and most games elsewhere are officially futsal. The disambiguation link atop the Indoor Football page links to both of those pages. I think you'd need to make a better case than "You don't own Wiki" to convince us that all the American, Canadian, and Major Indoor Soccer Leagues belong on an "indoor football" page. --Akbeancounter (talk) 02:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surely this should be set out the like the main Football page, with no bias towards any one discipline. --BigTurnip (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arena Football should removed from this page

This page should be talking about indoor football only, and not arena football. Arena football already has it's own page, and it's different sport. Those who are a fan of the sport know that there is a difference. --DMC511 15:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The predominant version of indoor American football IS Arena football, and that has to be mentioned here, but rather than an long-winded discussion of it, the link to is should suffice for most discussion of that sport, rather than repeating much of it here. 75.216.81.184 (talk) 21:24, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Second Chicago Coliseum

There needs to be reconcillation between the version reported here, where indoor football began with the World Series of Football at the second Madison Square Garden and the version related in the Chicago Coliseum article, where it began at the second Chicago Coliseum. 75.216.81.184 (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Differentiation between Indoor Football and NFL

I agree with many of the arguments made for differentiation, as made below. But I believe another needs to be made. "Indoor football" is a specific type of football whose rules, field dimensions, etc. differ quite greatly from traditional American football. The first sentence basically states that NFL (ie traditional American football teams) who simply play in an indoor stadium, are "indoor football teams." It states that they follow "indoor football" rules but merely have a regular-sized field. This is in no way accurate. Using the example provided in the opening sentence - the New Orleans Saints follow the rules of traditional American football, yet this states:

"In the United States, indoor football is football played at ice hockey-sized indoor arenas (besides for certain NFL teams which have large indoor stadiums, such as the New Orleans Saints who play in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome). While varied, the rules of indoor football are designed to allow for play in a smaller arena. The indoor football season typically begins in mid- to late-winter and ends by mid-summer."

Absolutely none of this is true about the NO Saints, except that they play in the Superdome and the NFL.

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Merge

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Tagging for a merger because there's really nothing at that wouldn't best be covered by having it all in one article under the generalized name. The specific version of indoor American football used by the now-defunct AFL is just one take on the concept, and had few particularly notable distinctions beyond the rebound nets, which can be summarized here. Otherwise, the sport is the same. oknazevad (talk) 21:05, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: our lead image at this article is a picture of an AFL game. We already consider it a league-specific version of the sport, not a separate sport. No need for a separate article. It's almost a WP:POVFORK in that regard. oknazevad (talk) 23:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Arena Football League is a type of indoor American football, and we can easily explain the AFL article in the context of indoor American football. I doubt this will be a controversial merge but the article sizes are pretty large so it may be a little difficult to execute. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk) 02:58, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I think a merger is the right idea, and I agree with the above that the AFL was a league-specific variant, not a wholly different sport. The Arena football page itself lists "indoor football" as another name and the "Indoor Football League" as the current highest governing body (since the AFL became defunct)... and of surviving AFL teams, most (including the Arizona Rattlers, Iowa Barnstormers, Spokane Shock, and Green Bay Blizzard) appear to be IFL teams now. One page covering it all makes sense. Danazar (talk) 15:42, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wholly agree with above stated sentiments. This change has been needed for some time. CDBroncos82 (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support Indoor and Arena mean the same thing.It makes as much sense as outdoor sports having a article and outside sports having a article. Wp9097 (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Went ahead and redirected the article here. Looking at it, there really wasn't anything that needed to be merged into this article, as the section on the AFL here already sufficiently covered it. The other article was far too much a redundant duplicate of the Arena Football League article, and wasn't actually about the sport. Really nothing worth saving. oknazevad (talk) 08:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 November 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved to Arena football. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 18:36, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indoor American football → Indoor gridiron football – The sport has rules that are considerably different from both the American and Canadian codes, and there's no particular reason to suggest that it's closer, or a version of, the American variant apart from the fact that it's mainly played in the US. The suggested title better reflects this. – anlztrk (talk) 06:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Arena football, per WP:COMMONNAME. 162 etc. (talk) 07:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There's really no such thing as Indoor Canadian football so the "gridiron" isn't necessary. Also, Indoor American football and arena football used to be 2 different articles. In my experience though, "arena football" actually is the common name. A lot of local news reporting for these "indoor" teams still just call it "arena football" so I would be okay with moving this to that title. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 08:19, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I wouldn't oppose a move to the more common name arena football either, as it wouldn't falsely imply the game is more similar to the American variant than to the Canadian one. Either alternative is better than the current title. – anlztrk (talk) 16:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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