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Proposed split

I propose that this article should be split into different pages for each Apple Watch model, or at the very least the Apple Watch Ultra, which has significant hardware and software differences. The current article, in particular the comparison of models table, is lengthy and hard to read. This split would also bring the Apple Watch in line with the iPhone, iPad, and Mac families which have their own individual articles for each device. TechnicalNewt (talk) 08:25, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, when that was tried previously, to be blunt and plain-spoken, nobody really put in the effort to make the Series articles decent, overall. IIRC, each separate Series article basically just seemed to be a rehash of portions of the mothership article relating to Apple Watch overall, with a few Series-specific tech specs and some miscellanea thrown in (and maybe a review).

So eventually action was taken to bring those articles back into the fold.

During a period of heavy Wikipedia editing, like 2007-2015, it probably would have been simpler to get those individual articles made and filled with details, so that they could stand alone. (Given that iPhone and iPad models were first produced during that time, it's easy to see why the tradition of each model have its own page began.)

I'm not necessarily opposed to each Series having its own article, but really would want to hear that people are pledging to do the work to make those proposed articles stand up on their own. Infoman99 (talk) 20:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I'd rather this article be improved than create stubs that no one but Wikignomes will touch for the next ten years. DFlhb (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All consumer electronic device Wikipedia articles will eventually be abandoned, to some degree at least. I don't think that's a valid argument against making an article for one. There's only so much that can be added to the iPhone 4 article in 2024, for instance. Golf99 (talk) 11:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do think the Ultra needs its own article. It is significantly different from the other Watch models to date, and will apparently be getting updates going forward similar to the annual updates the regular Watches receive. —Locke Cole • t • c 22:00, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1 DFlhb (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, if each IPhone has it's own page, each watch model should as well. We must act in the best interests of the consumer, as benevolent Wikipedia gods. RyanLovesWikihow (talk) 03:18, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily about apple watch Ultra but I think there should be different pages for each of the apple watch generations which can be linked to this main page. Moreover, in coming years, there will be more apple watch generations and it will be too much information on a single page. 69.157.98.196 (talk) 18:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose split There does not appear to be enough content about the inidividual models to require a split into multiple pages. The comparison to iPhone models doesn't seem apt with less changes between these models. The tech specs and its sources seem to take up the most space and could perhaps be split, but the current prose length of 44 kb is reasonable. Reywas92^Talk 16:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support split

If each iPad Pro generation gets it own (very small) Wikipedia entry, why can’t Apple Watch models? The iPad Pro really only sees minor generational changes — often as simple as “it has a new chip, a new colour, and supports a new peripheral” — but they still get their own pages. In my opinion, they’re padded out with random and irrelevant information simply to justify their existence as standalone entries. Can someone explain this discrepancy to me? Golf99 (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed "they’re padded out with random and irrelevant information simply to justify their existence as standalone entries", and the same would be true if we gave every Apple Watch generation its own article. The discrepancy stems from an old habit (and a bit of a systemic issue for consumer products) of creating new articles for each model, which then have to be merged. A lot of merging has been done in the past decade, and I expect that'll happen for the iPad articles at some point. DFlhb (talk) 07:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will there be a point in which there are too many Apple Watch models and variants for a single page?

With rumours of a low-cost plastic/polycarbonate model (in the same vein as the iPhone 5c), there's yet another variant that will either need its own entry like the Ultra, or it'll have to be awkwardly sandwiched amidst the existing sprawl like the Apple Watch SE. But that will also depend on whether it's just the SE as the rumour report suggests, or if Apple plans on splitting it off into its own thing. Golf99 (talk) 11:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be best to split the Apple Watch into 3 pages/categories, similar to how the MacBook Air was split into Intel-based and Apple-Silicon-Based. Have a page for each the base model Watch, Watch SE, and Watch Ultra respectively. I feel that would provide enough information for each specific model without the clutter or tedium of having to update and manage a separate page for every single one.Mjones2160 (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A split makes the most sense. Thenewsoftoday (talk) 20:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In its current form, spinouts don't make much sense. Outside of specific product lines (like the Ultra) there's going to be very little unique info for each page. Most of the bloat on this page comes from product spec tables that arguably violate a couple of our PAGs and need re-evaluation, and there's a simultaneous issue of failing to follow summary style and also badly representing certain sections (the reception section wouldn't fly for any of the models if you spun them out.) Clean up and summarize the content better and then it can be reevaluated. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 21:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise?

I propose adding info-boxes for each generation to summarise the specifications and key data, making it a lot easier to parse than the current long-form paragraphs. Mike (talk) 08:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, prose is always more important than infoboxes, especially when references in the latter are often lacking. I'm not averse to this suggestion, just wondering if there's enough accompanying prose at present to prevent there being a lot of blank spaces when the infoboxes are added. Seasider53 (talk) 22:38, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding 13 infoboxes to a single article really isn't going to solve this issues and would basically be a rehash of the models table. YannickFran (talk) 11:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

dard 156.38.40.32 (talk) 17:25, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Condensing Page to the Basics

In the spirit of adding separate pages for each model, I propose keeping the basic information about the Apple Watch release but moving the Hardware, Software, and Model Comparison to a separate page at least. Might I also suggest moving the Reception topic closer to the Unveiling and Release topic? It may have even been intended as Perception. The current break between the two with the charts and tables makes the page even more overwhelming to digest.--Supergirl02 (talk) 22:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree as it will be hard to navigate if you want every thing in 1 page and change en to simple in the link and everything will be simplified

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Split Apple Watch Ultra

Even if each generational model does not get split into their own individual page, I propose splitting the Ultra line into a seperate page. With the announcement of the Apple Watch Ultra 2, it is clear that Apple sees the device as a seperate product line similar to the iPhone Pro series. The Ultra line of watches have a specific target market (hiking, trailing, & diving) and have enough distinct hardware and software features that set them apart from standard Apple Watch models even further than typical generational upgrades. TechnicalNewt (talk) 04:25, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The Apple Watch Ultra is like the Pro iPhone at this point, and for the most part, Pro iPhones are separate products and separate articles than their normal ones. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support as well. Per my comments above in the other proposed split. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changed my mind since the discussion above, to Oppose. They're variants of the same product more than they are distinct product lines. In that sense they're more comparable to the iPhones Pro (no separate article) than to the MacBook Pros (separate article) and iPads Pro (separate article). Both products get refreshed simultaneously rather than at different intervals, and most new features are common to both products (this year: new chips, higher brightness, Siri on-device, double-tap, carbon neutral, increased disk space); splitting them would result in high duplication of content, and would also make it harder to compare and contrast both models. DFlhb (talk) 06:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Apple Watch Page does need a split. Its size is currently at 206,139 bytes. And that as time goes on Apple will release new watch models . CosXZ (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But if the case is split. I would split the SE not the Ultra CosXZ (talk) 19:36, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i agree on splitting the apple watch ultra into its own page, but i also think is should happen with the SE Ckitty2010 (talk) 19:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Ckitty2010 CosXZ (talk) 23:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, Ultra is significant enough for its own page. Macpro8921 (talk) 06:51, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, Ultra is a product line separate from the Series line daruda (talk) 12:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Apple Watch health monitoring patent dispute for deletion

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3G LTE cessation

3G technology globally is being phased out in favour of network providers supporting newer 4g and 5g cellular data transfer technologies and wavelengths. In Australia on 31st August 2024 and thereabouts, various LTE providers will stop providing 3G services to free up the bandwidth in that jurisdiction (nationally), thus the cellular function on Apple Watches 3,4,5 and SE1 will cease to function and the watch will only work over wifi or by sharing the paired iPhone’s data connection. 14.137.210.31 (talk) 11:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]