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Latter Day Saint/Ex-Mormon?

Young is listed on the Former Latter-day Saints article... I'm not a fan of list articles in general (I much prefer categories), so I've added her to the "Ex-Mormon" category... But did Young leave the LDS church prior to her death? In other words, should she be in the "Latter Day Saints" or "Ex-Mormon" category?

Reply: "Ex-Mormon" category. She never officially rejoined the church after leaving it. Tstuff (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Eliza Young

Ann Eliza Young was the subject of the historical novel, The Twenty-Seventh Wife, by Irving Wallace, published in 1962. The book gives an engaging history of the Mormon Church in general, and of polygamy specifically, as well as the statehood background of Utah. Mscasteel 01:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted, though that Irving Wallace made up a lot of history, or got his information from sources who invented their stories. See http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=77&chapid=970 --Loveonearth (talk) 18:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's why it's called historical fiction. It isn't Wallace's job to be Ann Eliza's biographer as if he were Leonard Arrington or Davis Bitton or Michael Quinn or Linda Sillitoe. 2606:6000:DFC0:1B:1C2F:5361:D4BB:BA63 (talk) 14:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Coatrack

Editors wanting to use this article to cover the wider topic of polygamy would do well to see Wikipedia:Coatrack. In essence it says that the material on the article should stay on topic; the topic is the name of the article. With this article being about Ann Eliza Young, the material should be directly related to her. For example, information about Quinn's claims of Joseph Smith burning his temple garments and renouncing polygamy shortly before his death could go on one of the several articles about him, but it is out of place on this article, as it happened the same year that Ann Eliza Young was born, and there is no link between that alleged action and Ann Eliza Young. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 15:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poland Act

How could the Poland Act that was passed in 1874 have been effected by any speech given to the U.S. Congress in 1875? After looking at the abstraction of citation given, there appears to be evidence of sensationalism and sloppy scholarship with that paper, making it less than reliable. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From Talk:Wife No. 19.../Comments

This material will never be seen where it was previously located at Talk:Wife No. 19, or the story of a life in bondage. Being a complete exposé of Mormonism, and revealing the sorrows, sacrifices and sufferings of women in polygamy/Comments, and really belongs here anyway, so moved it. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 16:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Comment: this is a silly redirect. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:22, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

In 1930, her older grandson told Wallace, "I hope to hell I never see her again."

Er... it says she died in 1917. Valetude (talk) 21:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A fairly obvious clarification: Those of us from LDS traditions typically believe we are greatly likely to see almost everyone we knew here on Earth, again in the next world, in what Spiritualism calls the astral world and Mormonism the spirit world. One thing this could do is encourage us to release attitudes of anger and resentment like "hope I never see her again!" That attitude has the greatest effect on the one bearing the grudge, of course. We think it very possible she had even appeared to her grandson after moving to the next world. 2606:6000:DFC0:1B:1C2F:5361:D4BB:BA63 (talk) 14:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Alan in Tucson[reply]

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