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A fact from Ann Bedsole appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ann Bedsole, the first woman to be elected to the Alabama Senate, printed a timetable for the state's hunting season on the back of her re-election campaign flyers?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ann Bedsole.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Ann Bedsole was the first Republican woman to serve in the Alabama House of Representatives and the first woman to serve in the Alabama Senate?~~ "Ann Smith Bedsole". Encyclopedia of Alabama. Archived from the original on September 26, 2020.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Butters

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ:
Overall: QPQ needed, or nominator needs to claim the exemption. Otherwise, this looks good Imzadi 1979 → 18:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Imzadi1979: Just completed the QPQ so that article can go ahead. Jon698 (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- now. Imzadi 1979 → 18:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon698: Isn't there anything else you can say about her accomplishments other than that she was the first? And so many firsts? Yoninah (talk) 23:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Repinging Jon698. I agree with Yoninah. SL93 (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: There is nothing else important about her and I don't see how two firsts is "so many". Jon698 (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon698: It seems you were only using your primary source to talk about her political career. I added a lot more about her business and philanthropic activities. She sounds like quite a doer. Maybe you can take one of the "firsts" and add it to something else from her career to make a better hook. Yoninah (talk) 16:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1~~... that Ann Bedsole, the first woman to serve in the Alabama Senate, received a Philanthropist of the Year award for her numerous educational and philanthropic initiatives?~~
ALT2 ~~... that Ann Bedsole, the first woman to serve in the Alabama Senate, was inducted into the Alabama Academy of Honor for her numerous educational and philanthropic initiatives?~~

I tried to come up with a hook that highlighted her philanthropical activities, but none of the things mentioned in the article appeared to be broadly appealing. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ~~... that Ann Bedsole, the first woman to serve in the Alabama Senate, included a timetable for the state's hunting season on the back of her re-election campaign materials?~~ Yoninah (talk) 02:10, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds a lot better. Would you want to be listed as a co-contributer for this nom? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've been expanding the article while watching the World Series! Yoninah (talk) 03:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've listed you as a co-expander. We're gonna need a new review for this. Courtesy ping Imzadi1979. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Calling on evrik or Kingsif to complete this review. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 3 is sourced, but the fact misaligns with what is written in the article. The article doesn't specify that the schedule was on the back, and the hook doesn't specify for which re-election campaign. Both could be tweaked to improve this. Thanks, Kingsif (talk) 22:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: I fixed the article based on the source. I think it's too much to state "first" twice in the hook, once for being the first woman and once for being her first re-election. What do you think of this:
ALT4: ... that Ann Bedsole, the first woman to be elected to the Alabama Senate, printed a timetable for the state's hunting season on the back of her re-election campaign flyers? Yoninah (talk) 23:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4 good to go, thanks Yoninah, Kingsif (talk) 00:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]