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On 24 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Andy Green (pilot). The result of the discussion was Moved to Andy Green (RAF officer).

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Stan Barrett was first

Andy Green may have been first in the FIA record books for breaking Mach 1 in a land vehicle according to FIA rules, but he wasn't the first to achieve Mach 1 on land — not my a long shot. American movie stuntman Stan Barrett did that two decades earlier, in 1979, driving the Budweiser Rocket on Rogers Dry Lake in California. In this one respect the Andy Green article is inaccurate. Since the speed of sound is a function of air density and temperature, the measured speeds in the two situations were significantly different, — Quicksilver^{T @} 16:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was claimed that Stan Barrett broke the sound barrier but there is insufficient reliable evidence for this. His speed was not measured by any recognised authorities and the method used was highly suspect and completely lacking in credibility. --EricPolymath (talk) 14:40, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 24 June 2022

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Andy Green (RAF officer). There is clear consensus that this man is not the primary topic and thus cannot occupy the base name. However, there is a slight change of plans due to concerns raised of him not being known as a pilot; I chose "(RAF officer)" to balance not misleading others on what he does and concision. Another RM to move to a better title can be held at any time. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Green → Andy Green (pilot) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; [1] Joeykai (talk) 01:39, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, redirect to Andrew Green per WP:DABCOMBINE. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support this.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support ~~per nomination and Crouch, Swale~~. There are four men named "Andy Green" and seven men named "Andrew Green" listed upon the Andrew Green disambiguation page, which puts in doubt the speed racer's primary positioning. If consensus finds that being a "(pilot)" is not his greatest claim to fame, would also support Andy Green (land speed record holder) per Land speed record holder succession box at the bottom of his article. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:36, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support - it should have been moved as soon as Andy Green (baseball) had become more notable for his baseball career. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Andy Green (RAF officer), which is how we always disambiguate pilots who are in the RAF and who are not better-known as civilian pilots. But he's not actually best-known as a pilot at all, so another disambiguator may be better. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I am striking "per nomination and Crouch, Swale" in my above "support" vote and, unless consensus develops for a parenthetical qualifier that specifies subject's status as a "(land speed record holder)", I would likewise support Andy Green → Andy Green (RAF officer), rather than the proposed Andy Green → Andy Green (pilot). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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