Talk:Anaconda (film series)

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Requested move 11 May 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 17:59, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anaconda (film series) → Anaconda (franchise) – "Film series" is a messy and unnecessary title, and "franchise" is a much better, simpler and more appropriate wording. The definition of "franchise" (film/media) is "an entire series of the film (multiple movies): the original and all its subsequent sequels thereafter (ie, James Bond/007 films, Star Wars movies, Rocky series, etc.) or a collection of different media" as can be easily looked up on Google. And a franchise is a franchise no matter how big or small. TurokSwe (talk) 09:33, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Per WP:NCF, we use "(film series)" as a disambiguator, unless it is a multi-media franchise. A couple of promotional tie in web games and a publication of the screenplay does not satisfy the definition of a franchise. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The Tremors franchise is of equal significance, yet is labeled as a franchise. The NCF-article states that when "the content originating in a film or film series is presented in other media, then an associated overview page (an article describing and summarising the items of the franchise) may be disambiguated (if necessary) as Series name (franchise).'". A series of films, a couple of promotional tie-in video games (one of them an actual online multiplayer game based on the second film) and a novel is more than enough. The franchise is growing. By the way, Anaconda: The Writer's Cut is not a publication of the screenplay for the Anaconda-film, but an entirely different story. TurokSwe (talk) 10:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Tremors franchise includes a television series, this is just a series of films. --Rob Sinden (talk) 10:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - That's a weak and confusing counter-response, and as I said, this isn't "just" a series of films, it so-far includes video games and a novel even, and more is likely to come. Refusing this renaming just because the franchise doesn't have a TV-series is illogical. It would be appropriate to use the term "film-series" if there were several different series and storylines with a number of installments, but this is just one single franchise. TurokSwe (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. "Franchise" is an ambiguous term that primarily refers to a business structure. It's not a good term for media. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a common and great term for media. Media/film franchise happen to exist and this franchise falls under that category. TurokSwe (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not disputing that the term "franchise" exists for media exploitation, only that it is at all useful in a general encyclopedia. It isn't useful, because it's ambiguous, confusing inside jargon that's subject to judgment calls such as the exact one in this nomination. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 12:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:NCF. Calidum T|C 02:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Elaborate. TurokSwe (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The information in this article includes more than just the films. Fortdj33 (talk) 21:12, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On second glance, it appears that Rob Sinden is right. The novel and video games are just tie-ins to the films, and not enough to call it a franchise. Fortdj33 (talk) 01:33, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, for the same reasoning as the Lake Placid film series; there is nothing wrong with the current disambiguator, because this media is overwhelmingly notable as a film series, not for anything in other media. bd2412 T 14:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There is a difference between merchandise attached to films and intellectual property manifesting itself in independent media. This is basically a series of films with a few merchandise tie-ins. Betty Logan (talk) 02:26, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 October 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 14:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anaconda (film series) → Anaconda (franchise) – Article discusses the franchise as a whole, making this appropriate. FollowTheSigns (talk) 23:39, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:01, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is already a previous discussion from May 2015 above. A new discussion is therefore needed for this controversial move. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:01, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

weak support - The video games are promotionally-tied to film releases, not independent media, but the novel is. Anacondas was also licensed to another film series (Lake Placid) for the cross-over film, which is what I think moves this into franchise territory. -- Netoholic @ 20:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as per Netoholic – this does cover media other than film, so "franchise" is a better fit. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:48, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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