Talk:Ambush (ER)

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Date	Process	Result
May 24, 2022	Peer review	Reviewed
January 23, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 10, 2022.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Ambush", the fourth-season premiere episode of ER, was filmed live twice, for the East and West Coasts?

Current status: Good article

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that "Ambush", the fourth season premiere episode of ER was shown live twice for the east and west coast? Source: ^[1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Male Fantasy

Created by GamerPro64 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: Oh, how funny! I came across references to this in my research of a West Wing episode that did the same thing in 2006. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article is long enough and new enough. I assume good faith on the Newspapers.com references due to clippings not being used. A QPQ has been completed. The only issue is that the hook information in the article needs to be directly cited per DYK rules. - "The episode was filmed live twice for the east and west coast of the United States." SL93 (talk) 20:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Theres also this Variety article: Variety. GamerPro64 22:36, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't what I mean. DYK requires a citation right after the hook information in the article. A citation is needed directly after "The episode was filmed live twice for the east and west coast of the United States." This is per the eligibility criteria under Cited hook on the DYK page. "Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact." SL93 (talk) 22:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok added the citation now. GamerPro64 23:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. SL93 (talk) 00:08, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting to Prep 7 – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC) [reply]

References
References ^ Nye, Doug (September 27, 1997). "'ER' live draws viewers, but is disappointing". The State. p. D4 – via Newspapers.com.

GA Review

Passed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 03:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Almost there. Some copy tweaks and also some suggestions in re: sourcing. Templates like {{pq}} can come in really handy for heavy ProQuest users. 7-day hold to GamerPro64. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GamerPro64 I caught one other issue in fixing all the newspaper clippings. The Steve Hall review was not from the Indianapolis Star but its sister daily, the Indianapolis News. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy changes

Hyphenate "most-watched"
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Add a comma after "joins the hospital" (User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences)
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the sentences in the Production section are of very similar length back to back, leading to choppy reading
- Reworked some parts of the section around. GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd use "lead to" rather than "lead into"
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
the writing, calling the script "hackneyed" and Complete the appositive by adding a comma outside the quotation after "hackneyed"
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Steve Hall for The Indianapolis Star, while finding a few moments to be "undeniably powerful", he felt that the documentary crew plot device cheapened moments such as Dr. Morganstern suffering a heart attack. The "he" is not needed
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
October 6th, 1997 Date formatting and an MOS:DATECOMMA; change to "October 6, 1997,"
- Done. - GamerPro64 04:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and spot checks

Earwig turns up no issues (top number is a content mill mirroring us).

5 (OC Register → New York Daily News): "More exciting than daunting" quote is included. Y
6 (USA Today): Producers shot a version of the episode Wednesday as a fallback, in case of technical difficulties tonight, but the live show is expected to go smoothly. Y
8: Viewership figure in LAT national Nielsen ratings feature is correct. Y
15: Gold Derby list ranks the episode 12th. Y
17: List of Emmy nominations. Y

Images

This page has no images. I see one tangential one was culled during peer review.

Encouragements

Not required for GA specifications, but good best practices.

Clip newspapers.com citations and use that as the URL. Some multipage articles require multiple clippings.
Use ProQuest document IDs. You do this by adding to the |id= parameter of the relevant citation the document number corresponding to each resource, which is in the URL, wrapped in {{ProQuest}} or its shortcut {{pq}}. For instance, the USA Today reference has an ID of 408734998, so you would put {{ProQuest|408734998}}.
- To make it easier, here are the other two.
  - Orange County Register: 273015476. This is actually a reprint from the New York Daily News the day before.^[1]
  - Boston Globe: 403882861

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

^ Huff, Richard (September 22, 1997). "Prepping for a tricky operation: A live 'ER'". Daily News. New York. p. 65. Retrieved January 23, 2023 – via Newspapers.com.

[1] Nye, Doug (September 27, 1997). "'ER' live draws viewers, but is disappointing". The State. p. D4 – via Newspapers.com.

[Dail970922-2] Huff, Richard (September 22, 1997). "Prepping for a tricky operation: A live 'ER'". Daily News. New York. p. 65. Retrieved January 23, 2023 – via Newspapers.com.

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