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Family
[edit]I think we should put down who is saying what regarding the family, while being neutral on the matter. Oh and for your interest [1] although it uses a Persian source --Rayis 23:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "put down." Do you mean want to delete that info until it is verified? Joshdboz 00:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah no, I mean we should mention which source, says what. For example the Iran newspaper is well known for being a state-run newspaper. So we should mention, "according to [..] his daughter has said..[..]" rather than "his daughter has said", otherwise the article would be self contradictory since some sources claim his family had "left" --Rayis 00:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, that's a good idea. It is kind of odd with his family suddenly appearing today, although I can't imagine why Iran would be faking it all. Joshdboz 00:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think according to atleast one source, he has two wives..maybe one left for Israel, the other missed out on the tickets :) --Rayis 00:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Are you using that weblog as a source? --Hossein.ir 01:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, this was reported by Iranian media. Joshdboz 01:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Move to "Ali-Reza Asgari"
[edit]That's the correct spelling. Jahangard 23:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes.. we should --Rayis 23:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. Joshdboz 00:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Done. --Rayis 00:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]There are several pictures of Asgari circulating on the web, and there is very little chance that any new ones can be created or old ones be released as free content. Currently the US has no copyright relations with Iran, so I believe that we could use a picture of Asgari from Iranian media. I know Wikipedia usually tries to avoid this, but there are few options in this case. I'd be curious on you're responses. Joshdboz 00:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Iran is a member of wipo. See this:
- Iran became a member of WIPO after the ratification of the parliament in 2003.[2] --Hossein.ir 00:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Iran_and_copyright_issues claims that Iran is not a member of the WIPO Copyright Treaty. Robert Brockway 01:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE
[edit]This report gives a lot of new information for Asgari's disappearance. I would treat the claim at the end of the article with a grain of salt and not mention the information he has given to preserve NPOV.
"Asghari's information would lend credence to Western concerns regarding the increasing danger of Iran's nuclear program."
The information mentioned is nothing new and was already given to the IAEA in 2004 by IRAN. Wayne 05:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, I found a longer article at Ynetnews (I don't read Hebrew, so can't comment on the original report) and have added the info to the article. According to a quick Google search, the knowledge of secret Iranian enrichment by lasers was first mentioned by Iranian dissidents in September 2006 [3] but they did not specificly mention Natanz. Joshdboz 01:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- There is quite a bit around in regards to the Laser enrichment. This is from a summary of the November 10 2003 IAEA report: "Iran allowed inspectors to conduct sampling on Oct. 6 and told the IAEA Oct. 21 that it conducted laser-enrichment experiments with undeclared imported uranium metal at a site in Tehran until October 2002.....that it had been pursuing a laser-based uranium-enrichment program since 1991. Iran later told the IAEA during an Oct. 27-Nov. 1 visit that it had established “a pilot plant for laser enrichment” at Lashkar Ab’ad in 2000 and conducted enrichment experiments there between October 2002 and January 2003." Care should be taken as the same sort of claims by defectors were made running up to the invasion of Iraq and we now know how reliable those were. Wayne 06:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Of course. I'm not treating this information as fact; this is simply what has been reported that Asgari told US intelligence. Joshdboz 11:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- No real evidence of him being dead, but the first sentence in the article already reports his claimed death in December 28th. יוסאריאן (talk) 16:06, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was not moved. --rgpk (comment) 17:09, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Ali-Reza Asgari → Ali-Reza Askari — Relisted Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:17, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- The name has been spelled wrongfully as it should be Askari rather than Asgari. Please change this to reflect the correct name.--Saas wiki (talk) 13:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- The Arabic-alphabet version of his name as in his infobox spells the g/k as گ , the Persian / Urdu / etc double-topped K used to spell the G sound (except in Egypt): see gaf. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]@David Gerard: Hi. Would you please explain this edit more? I can see that PJ Media has been known for publishing fake news, but this seems only after 2018 (the source in question was published in 2007). The journalist is also Richard Miniter, who has worked for credible printed media. We know that the creator of the work can affect reliability. Pahlevun (talk) 21:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- PJ Media has been running crazy nonsense its entire existence. But you're right that Miniter has generally been of a high standard. I've restored the section - David Gerard (talk) 21:51, 30 October 2021 (UTC)